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  • Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post

    I know the Yanks get blamed for making all sorts of stuff up like JFK, the Moon, 9/11 etc etc but would Trump really try to fake his own assignation/attempt even as someone did actually die?
    The only possible explanation that would approach that direction is if this 20 year old was such a fanatical follower of Trump that he took it upon himself to make a martyr out of Trump, missing deliberately of course. But I do not find that a particularly likely scenario. This 20 year old kid was acting on his own in any case, regardless of motive.

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    • Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post

      I know the Yanks get blamed for making all sorts of stuff up like JFK, the Moon, 9/11 etc etc but would Trump really try to fake his own assignation/attempt even as someone did actually die?
      No! He's not going to intentionally allow anyone to make a near miss shot at him. Is he going to play up the theatrics after the event? Yes! Being hit by some debris is far less dramatic than escaping death by millimetres.
      The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

      ​Disagreeing doesn't have to be disagreeable - Jeff Hamm

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      • Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

        If we are to accept this photo as depicting the trail of the bullet which inflicted damage upon Trump, we see that, not only is the trajectory too low, but the trail is longer than would be expected from a projectile travelling at around 2800fps being captured on a camera at a shutter speed of 1/8000 sec. Under those circumstances the trail should be around 10cm. This would indicate a trajectory speed of considerably less than the projected 2800 fps.
        Huh...what? Who wrote this rubbish. Please disregard this conclusion. I can only proffer as an excuse.....too many late nights....yeah, that's it.
        The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

        ​Disagreeing doesn't have to be disagreeable - Jeff Hamm

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        • I think it is obvious he was hit by some glass or some material after the bullet struck it. If he had been clipped by a bullet surely part of his ear would be missing? Probably a big part of it considering the size/velocity and potential energy of the bullet. Interesting that the media are not asking more questions. Seems a little one sided at the moment when it comes to the probing of medical conditions?
          Best wishes,

          Tristan

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          • Appears the glass theory has been debunked according to this report..

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            • Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
              Appears the glass theory has been debunked according to this report..

              https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fact-check...kip=1721411322
              That's not exactly a report. They're not forensic experts by a long shot. For example, this:

              Trump's description of his wound matches photographs of his ear after he was hit, prior to being removed from stage. The two circles below, added by Snopes, highlight two areas that appear to show torn skin
              ...is demonstrably false. If you trace a straight line between the two injuries, the bullet would have had to pass through Trump's temple.
              Also, they only consider "glass from a teleprompter" - that's the only thing they actually debunked. They did not consider debris from any other source. It was either bullet, or "glass from a teleprompter", and concluding if it's not one, then it's the other - which is a false dichotomy.

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              • Originally posted by Karl View Post
                If you trace a straight line between the two injuries, the bullet would have had to pass through Trump's temple.
                Not necessarily. The bullet may have skimmed the rim of the uppermost part (pinna) of his ear, taking chunks out of the rim on the "way in" and "way out". The entry/exit wounds in the pinna seem consistent with being caused by a projectile of approx 6mm in diameter, and Trump just happened to be facing in the right direction for a bullet to graze his ear on a trajectory parallel with the side of his head.
                Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                • Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

                  No! He's not going to intentionally allow anyone to make a near miss shot at him. Is he going to play up the theatrics after the event? Yes! Being hit by some debris is far less dramatic than escaping death by millimetres.
                  Some pundit on TikTok (I don't watch it but saw it at another site) made a reenactment of the shooting.

                  I kid you not. In his animation he made the sniper a black man.

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                  I've seldom seen subliminal propaganda this blatant. The sniper was, of course, a white registered Republican.

                  The U.S. is in a very strange place.

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                  • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post

                    Not necessarily. The bullet may have skimmed the rim of the uppermost part (pinna) of his ear, taking chunks out of the rim on the "way in" and "way out". The entry/exit wounds in the pinna seem consistent with being caused by a projectile of approx 6mm in diameter, and Trump just happened to be facing in the right direction for a bullet to graze his ear on a trajectory parallel with the side of his head.
                    I don't see how this would have avoided the temple in any way. Draw a straight line, however you like, from any part of the first wound to any part of the second wound. There is no way to hit just those two parts and nothing else.

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                    • When I watch the video I hear a volley of three shots, see Trump go down, then a volley of five or six shots that are rapid fire. Reports are that the secret service sniper fired only one shot and that shot ended Crooks life.

                      We need to wait for a brass count from Crooks position, but I am beginning to suspect a second gunman.

                      Cheers, George
                      The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

                      ​Disagreeing doesn't have to be disagreeable - Jeff Hamm

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                      • Originally posted by Karl View Post
                        I don't see how this would have avoided the temple in any way. Draw a straight line, however you like, from any part of the first wound to any part of the second wound. There is no way to hit just those two parts and nothing else.
                        I just tested my own ear using a ruler to get a straight line. For me, it would be quite possible to​ hit those two parts of the ear and miss my temple. It is disturbing close, though.
                        "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

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                        • This is an interesting graphic.

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                          However, the aerial shots of Crooks body show him at the other end of that building, where he may have been obscured from the northern pair of snipers. A line towards Trump from the location of the body would seem to put both bleachers on his line of fire. The first three shots sound different, to me, than the other five, but the alignment shown on the diagram does fit better with the direction of Trump's head at the time. But Crooks didn't have time to change position. Was there a second gunman on the roof of the building behind?

                          Cheer, George
                          The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

                          ​Disagreeing doesn't have to be disagreeable - Jeff Hamm

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                          • Originally posted by Karl View Post
                            I don't see how this would have avoided the temple in any way.
                            Ears stick out, particularly at the top. Simple.
                            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                            • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                              Ears stick out, particularly at the top. Simple.
                              Hence why King Charles is not going to America... easy target

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                              • It has to be wondered why no medical report has emerged on Trump's injury. Perhaps:

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                                I wonder what a blood spatter specialist would conclude about the blood trails emerging spatially from his mouth?
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