Trump Shooting

[GBinOz]

Originally posted by GBinOz View Post
This is an interesting graphic.

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However, the aerial shots of Crooks body show him at the other end of that building, where he may have been obscured from the northern pair of snipers. A line towards Trump from the location of the body would seem to put both bleachers on his line of fire. The first three shots sound different, to me, than the other five, but the alignment shown on the diagram does fit better with the direction of Trump's head at the time. But Crooks didn't have time to change position. Was there a second gunman on the roof of the building behind?

Cheer, George

It also appears to be incorrect on the location of the gunman. The dot should be approximately where the "n" in "gunman" is.

Isn't that what I pointed out?

[Fiver]

This is an interesting graphic.



However, the aerial shots of Crooks body show him at the other end of that building, where he may have been obscured from the northern pair of snipers. A line towards Trump from the location of the body would seem to put both bleachers on his line of fire. The first three shots sound different, to me, than the other five, but the alignment shown on the diagram does fit better with the direction of Trump's head at the time. But Crooks didn't have time to change position. Was there a second gunman on the roof of the building behind?

Cheer, George

It also appears to be incorrect on the location of the gunman. The dot should be approximately where the "n" in "gunman" is.

[Geddy2112]

Of course a bullet is going to cause damage, its clear though he was just slightly nicked. Surely if that's the case if a moving bullet very slightly nicks/grazes a slightly flexible object then the damage could be quite minimal.

[Linotte]

As was indicated above, it’s pretty much been established that Trump was hit by either a piece of glass or some other debris. An AR-15 bullet is going to cause serious damage when it hits someone. You also tend to bleed more from head wounds. They patched him up pretty quickly, so this tells me that this was likely a small abrasion that didn’t require stitches and that he’s probably had a tetanus shot already.

Of course Trump is going to milk this for everything he can. I would ignore him since he’s a less than reliable narrator. I do think there was some incompetence on the part of the Secret Service and we will hear about that, though.

[GBinOz]

It has to be wondered why no medical report has emerged on Trump's injury. Perhaps:



I wonder what a blood spatter specialist would conclude about the blood trails emerging spatially from his mouth?

[Geddy2112]

Ears stick out, particularly at the top. Simple.

Hence why King Charles is not going to America... easy target

[Sam Flynn]

I don't see how this would have avoided the temple in any way.

Ears stick out, particularly at the top. Simple.

[GBinOz]

This is an interesting graphic.



However, the aerial shots of Crooks body show him at the other end of that building, where he may have been obscured from the northern pair of snipers. A line towards Trump from the location of the body would seem to put both bleachers on his line of fire. The first three shots sound different, to me, than the other five, but the alignment shown on the diagram does fit better with the direction of Trump's head at the time. But Crooks didn't have time to change position. Was there a second gunman on the roof of the building behind?

Cheer, George

[Fiver]

I don't see how this would have avoided the temple in any way. Draw a straight line, however you like, from any part of the first wound to any part of the second wound. There is no way to hit just those two parts and nothing else.

I just tested my own ear using a ruler to get a straight line. For me, it would be quite possible to hit those two parts of the ear and miss my temple. It is disturbing close, though.

[GBinOz]

When I watch the video I hear a volley of three shots, see Trump go down, then a volley of five or six shots that are rapid fire. Reports are that the secret service sniper fired only one shot and that shot ended Crooks life.

We need to wait for a brass count from Crooks position, but I am beginning to suspect a second gunman.

Cheers, George

[Karl]

Not necessarily. The bullet may have skimmed the rim of the uppermost part (pinna) of his ear, taking chunks out of the rim on the "way in" and "way out". The entry/exit wounds in the pinna seem consistent with being caused by a projectile of approx 6mm in diameter, and Trump just happened to be facing in the right direction for a bullet to graze his ear on a trajectory parallel with the side of his head.

I don't see how this would have avoided the temple in any way. Draw a straight line, however you like, from any part of the first wound to any part of the second wound. There is no way to hit just those two parts and nothing else.

[rjpalmer]

No! He's not going to intentionally allow anyone to make a near miss shot at him. Is he going to play up the theatrics after the event? Yes! Being hit by some debris is far less dramatic than escaping death by millimetres.

Some pundit on TikTok (I don't watch it but saw it at another site) made a reenactment of the shooting.

I kid you not. In his animation he made the sniper a black man.



I've seldom seen subliminal propaganda this blatant. The sniper was, of course, a white registered Republican.

The U.S. is in a very strange place.

[Sam Flynn]

If you trace a straight line between the two injuries, the bullet would have had to pass through Trump's temple.

Not necessarily. The bullet may have skimmed the rim of the uppermost part (pinna) of his ear, taking chunks out of the rim on the "way in" and "way out". The entry/exit wounds in the pinna seem consistent with being caused by a projectile of approx 6mm in diameter, and Trump just happened to be facing in the right direction for a bullet to graze his ear on a trajectory parallel with the side of his head.

[Karl]

Appears the glass theory has been debunked according to this report..

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fact-check...kip=1721411322

That's not exactly a report. They're not forensic experts by a long shot. For example, this:

Trump's description of his wound matches photographs of his ear after he was hit, prior to being removed from stage. The two circles below, added by Snopes, highlight two areas that appear to show torn skin

...is demonstrably false. If you trace a straight line between the two injuries, the bullet would have had to pass through Trump's temple.
Also, they only consider "glass from a teleprompter" - that's the only thing they actually debunked. They did not consider debris from any other source. It was either bullet, or "glass from a teleprompter", and concluding if it's not one, then it's the other - which is a false dichotomy.

[Geddy2112]

Appears the glass theory has been debunked according to this report..

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-rumor-shards-glass-232900180.html?_guc_consent_skip=1721411322