Election

[Svensson]

https://x.com/KaanNathalie/status/1821497267951452305

Looks like Ricky Jones, the Labour man is suggesting we need to 'cut all their throats' https://www.dartfordlabour.org.uk/ricky-jones/

Looks like you get all upset when the boot is on the other foot. Just a few days ago you were writing poetry when Nazi thugs were looking to kill people just becasue they have brown skin.

[Herlock Sholmes]

or maybe you prefer to get your news from instagram rather than the BBC?

Of course there’s no doubt that lies have been told. We all know what a dangerous tool the internet is when it comes to lies and propaganda but do you believe that the issues are solely on one side of the debate Svensson?

If a proportion of the people have real concerns about excessive, uncontrolled immigration is it reasonable or fair to dismiss those fears because you feel that they are all based on the fact that those people have just swallowed misinformation online? That there are no intelligent, well informed people who see problems that might actually be real? Or maybe real real but exaggerated? This is one of the most annoying parts of this whole debate (and I’m not just talking about on here.) It’s the assumption that anyone expressing a concern about immigration is either a racist or some gullible idiot whilst those on the other side are all intelligent, well-balanced saints. How can problems be solved in these circumstances?

Earlier in the thread I posted links to reputable polls carried out by companies regularly used in all forms of media including the BBC. All of them showed that there is a very, very sizeable portion of the UK public who have those concerns. Is it right they those concerns are all dismissed by the people who they themselves placed in power to deal with the concerns that they have? This one YouGov poll for example has 6 issues listed that concern the public before the recent election.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/trackers/the-most-important-issues-facing-the-country

In order:

Equal 1st - The economy and Health.
Second - Immigration.
Equal 3rd - The Environment and Housing.
4th - Crime.

So the average Uk citizen (who I prefer not to think of as being a racist thug) is more concerned about immigration that he/she is about the Environment, Housing or Crime. Why does no one brush aside their concerns about the Economy or Health in the same way that they brush aside their concerns about immigration? I think that we all know the answer to that one but it’s one of those things that has to remain unsaid.

Politicians from the right and from the left constantly and repeatedly betray the citizens of this country and I’ve always voted Labour so I’m not from the Right let alone the extreme right. I want nothing to do with Team Racist Thug or Team Woke Liar either, which appears to be our options out in the real world at the moment. Which causes the greater problem in our society? Team Woke Liar by a mile imo. I know this upsets some but it’s true. It’s what the evidence tells me. But….whatever our viewpoint the only way forward in the real world is for everyone to come to the centre, to accept that everything they believe isn’t always spot on accurate, to cast aside any fear of being critical and to realise that it’s the duty of every country to put its own citizen’s welfare first.

[Geddy2112]

https://x.com/KaanNathalie/status/1821497267951452305

Looks like Ricky Jones, the Labour man is suggesting we need to 'cut all their throats' https://www.dartfordlabour.org.uk/ricky-jones/

[Svensson]

or maybe you prefer to get your news from instagram rather than the BBC?

[Svensson]

or this one?

[Svensson]

or maybe you belive this here over the BBC?

[Svensson]

Hint - don't believe the BBC. They are the mouthpiece of the Government.

Yeah. So you rather believe this BS here, right?

[Svensson]

Not a policeman in sight! - Two Tier Policing.

Here are your policemen. Happy now?

[Svensson]

exatly my point. A picture from this angle and that angle can tell very different stories. It just depends on wht story you want it to tell.

[Geddy2112]

From a different angle... Policemen are very much there..

[Geddy2112]

Here are nazi thugs are printed in the Irish Times and not a single policeman in sight. #sametierpolicing

Hahaha that is a rather doctored picture from the Rotherham hotel, the Police are all about 8 feet away to the left - hence that is what the thug is throwing the brick at. Try again with your biased 'reporting'...

[Geddy2112]

So they firebombed the Citizens Advice Bureau, which is in the same hysical building as the police station. And as a result of the fire damage, the police station is now closed. By Wickerman's own definition, it has been destroyed because it can no longer fulfil its primary function. So after the rioters have attacked police up and down the country, the arrived in front of a police station in Sunderland and said "hey, let's burn down the Citizens Advice Bureau". Right? This must be exactly how it happened.

Well considering I live in Sunderland I'm probably more aware of the 'facts' other than what the mainstream media are portraying to force their narrative. That particular 'Police' Station has been shut for over three years. So that kind of stuffs your point.

because A) this was a separate incident and B) your comment is an excrutiatingly lame attempt of "bothsideism". There have been 400 arrests in connection to the weeklong riots in the UK and you are complaining about THREE (!!!) from an unrelated incident being omitted in the article? There simply is no equialence here.

What an idiotic point that is. This is the whole problem. How can 'justice' be served if it's not served equally and fairly across the board? Those Muslim men are on video punching and attacking the Police, one WPC suffered a broken nose and they have not even been arrested, worse they are paraded out in front of the media with a solicitor claiming the Police blacked the mother's eye when it's plain to see in the video it's her own son's flying elbow causing the damage. However three white 'thugs' over the weekend are charged and convicted within four days for 'pushing' a Police officer. How is that fair? If you can't see that is a huge problem then you are not worth even conversing with. You are worse than Starmer. How can Starmer address and solve a problem without first understanding what the problem is?

What were they "protesting", or possibly "protecting? Also, what is your definition of "heavily armed"? You don't state that they had contributed to the rioting (if they have, please provide the source) so there is no need for the article to mention them.

Heavily armed as in carrying knifes, swords, baseball bats, wooden planks. Source, I'm sure if you search you will find plenty of videos of them beating a man outside the pub in Birmingham, smashing a Greggs in Stoke On Trent. Being left alone to walk the streets of Blackburn to find the so called EDL for a punch up. Slashing the tyres of the Sky TV van etc etc. Open your chuffing eyes will you!!!

What? How is this even relevant?

Jesus Christ, have you not seen the mainstream media whipping it up shouting it's the EDL thugs? That is how it's relevant because the EDL do not exist and have not done for over ten years, they (left wingers, wokists) are blaming something that does not exist and gullible people, like yourself are swallowing it whole. I wonder what their agenda is.

No. there have been no "Muslim Thugs out protesting", there have been white thugs, nationalists and Nazi fanboys attacking and attempting to murder anyone who has brown skin.

Haha, what a numpty. Are you blind, see above for examples and add to the gangs on bikes blocking the North Circular Road in London last night because the 'media' had told them the EDL were coming. Get a chuffing grip.

are you referring to the person that had his/her head kicked while on the ground? Or are you referring to a different incident? If this is yet another incident or "Muslim thuggery" you are complaining about, then I raise your incident by several hundred incidents of GBH and criminal damage that occurred over the last week.

I'm referring to the Muslim mother whose kids had just beat the crap out of three Police and caught her son's flaying elbow in the face BEFORE he was tasered and kicked in the head. The Police did not kick him in the head for shits and giggles did they. Are these people like yourself that stupid to believe what the mainstream media is telling you? You do know the 'first' video is out now don't you, you have seen it I take it. Why are you condoning these actions? Why have these not been arrested and charged with GBH? Why, because they are Muslims that is why.

[Svensson]

Not a policeman in sight! - Two Tier Policing.

lol. And I see no violence taking place....

Here are nazi thugs are printed in the Irish Times and not a single policeman in sight. #sametierpolicing

[Svensson]

They have still NOT been charged.
The two accused appeared on BBC yesterday, which shows they have not been charged, had that been the case the BBC would have broken the law for interfering with an ongoing court case.
Media are not allowed to comment on a case before the courts.

Media are commenting on an ongoing cases every single day.

[Svensson]

ok, fair enough. They may not have bee ncharged yet but investigations are ongoing, hence the bail. And the difference is exactly what? Do you require your perceived enemies to be charged within a arbitrary timeframe?