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  • Abby Normal
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    who sends an email to their boss and joins a conference call if they are planning an immediate suicide??

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by Ms Diddles View Post
    I feel somewhat voyeuristic speculating, but I still think it's likely that there was something in the content of that conference call that could have prompted the disappearance (either through suicide or simply prompting a breakdown / walk away due to stress) which also caused the police to describe Nicola's circumstances as "vulnerable".

    Almost as soon as the disappearance was announced the police stated that they did not suspect any third party involvement, which I thought was strange.

    To me that implied that from the offset they had much more information than was in the public domain.

    I'm sure I read of texts sent prior to the conference call, sent to a friend which appeared completely normal and involved scheduling a playdate for their kids (or similar).

    I know that's far from definitive proof that all was well prior to the conference call, but it could support that notion.

    I'd be really interested to know the content of that conference call, as it's possible the answer is in there somewhere.
    ‘They did mention that she’d arranged a play date.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by erobitha View Post

    They claimed she is a strong swimmer.
    Cheers Ero

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  • Ms Diddles
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    I feel somewhat voyeuristic speculating, but I still think it's likely that there was something in the content of that conference call that could have prompted the disappearance (either through suicide or simply prompting a breakdown / walk away due to stress) which also caused the police to describe Nicola's circumstances as "vulnerable".

    Almost as soon as the disappearance was announced the police stated that they did not suspect any third party involvement, which I thought was strange.

    To me that implied that from the offset they had much more information than was in the public domain.

    I'm sure I read of texts sent prior to the conference call, sent to a friend which appeared completely normal and involved scheduling a playdate for their kids (or similar).

    I know that's far from definitive proof that all was well prior to the conference call, but it could support that notion.

    I'd be really interested to know the content of that conference call, as it's possible the answer is in there somewhere.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

    yeah they need to check out these caravan parks, especially since the sighting of the two suspicious fisher men. two men abducting her and taking her to their camper nearby would make sense.

    also, i nbeleive i read that she was a strong swimmer.
    Cheers Abby, I did wonder if it had been mentioned.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by caz View Post

    I believe the red van has been described as 'not suspicious', but frustratingly that's not quite the same as saying it has been entirely ruled out.
    Thanks Caz

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  • caz
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

    got it. but reading between the lines it sounds like they are implying mental issues and suicide by drowning does it not?
    That would be speculating, Abby. The police are implying nothing specific so, for all we know, Nicola could have been vulnerable due to the behaviour of some other person or persons. Did she have any enemies for instance? Was she being bullied, threatened or stalked by someone - either a stranger online or someone she knew? Had a previous partner been making trouble? Granted, all these situations would cause mental stress and could even lead to suicide in extreme cases, but they would also make a woman physically vulnerable to the individual concerned.

    If she was mentally unstable or had suicidal thoughts for no external reasons, how could her partner possibly be so certain that wherever she vanished to, it wasn't the river? And why are the police implying that the man who knew her best is most likely wrong? They are still saying they have no evidence of anyone else being involved. But I'm seriously beginning to wonder how a strong swimmer would expect to be able to drown herself in that particular part of that river, and why her body has still not been found if she did. An overdose of pills and a note left for her family would seem a kinder and more likely way out of a mother's despair.

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    Caz
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  • erobitha
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    Have they said whether she could swim or not Ero?
    They claimed she is a strong swimmer.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Aethelwulf View Post
    There is a decent size lake at the caravan park - I haven't heard of this being dived, but it is extremely close to the last confirmed sighting location in the top field.
    bingo

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  • Aethelwulf
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    There is a decent size lake at the caravan park - I haven't heard of this being dived, but it is extremely close to the last confirmed sighting location in the top field.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by caz View Post

    Hi Abby,

    Well, drowning is what the police are saying is their main theory, but they also remain open to the possibility of an abduction or a voluntary disappearance. They may well be following other leads they can't talk about while they are ongoing, and may be pushing the drowning theory in the hope of someone disproving it, or giving away some clue if anyone else was involved. Whatever Nicola's partner told the police about her when she first went missing may have led to certain enquiries of a difficult or delicate nature, which they need to keep tight lipped about for the benefit of all concerned.

    The police are under no obligation to 'clear it up' publicly before they are good and ready, nor are they there to satisfy public curiosity. It has to be their decision what information to release and what to keep to themselves until further notice.

    Love,

    Caz
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    got it. but reading between the lines it sounds like they are implying mental issues and suicide by drowning does it not?

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  • caz
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

    yeah they need to check out these caravan parks, especially since the sighting of the two suspicious fisher men. two men abducting her and taking her to their camper nearby would make sense.

    also, i nbeleive i read that she was a strong swimmer.
    Yes, Abby. A close friend described Nicola as an "incredibly strong swimmer".

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  • caz
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    It’s impossible to know which caravan park they’re talking about Abby. These places can either be caravans for hire or places where people can park up their own or pitch tents. The police did mention a tatty red camper van but I don’t know if there’s been any further mention of it. You’d think that it would stand out like a sore thumb?
    I believe the red van has been described as 'not suspicious', but frustratingly that's not quite the same as saying it has been entirely ruled out.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    It’s impossible to know which caravan park they’re talking about Abby. These places can either be caravans for hire or places where people can park up their own or pitch tents. The police did mention a tatty red camper van but I don’t know if there’s been any further mention of it. You’d think that it would stand out like a sore thumb?
    yeah they need to check out these caravan parks, especially since the sighting of the two suspicious fisher men. two men abducting her and taking her to their camper nearby would make sense.

    also, i nbeleive i read that she was a strong swimmer.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by erobitha View Post

    The police said explicitly the vulnerabilities were private and out of respect for the family they would not share the nature of those vulnerabilities.

    It’s easy to speculate this must be code for some kind of depression issues or mental illness. Which speculating again may suggest suicide.

    I am convinced she entered the water one way or another.
    her dog was found running from a gate behind the bench to the bench, not in between the bench and tje water as id originally thought. that kind of changes alot.
    they should check out that gate where it leads and maybe use scent hounds.

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