Nicola Bulley, what does everybody think?

[caz]

The text arranging the play date sent at around 9.00 surely has to point toward something sinister? Let’s hope not though.

If Nicola's 'significant issues' were so bad that they sent her over the edge - possibly quite literally - at 9.30 that morning, I can't understand why she was still driving the children to school.

Something is still not making sense.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

The police are certainly coming under fire for releasing those details.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...st-as-it-comes

I'm not surprised, Herlock.

[Herlock Sholmes]

The text arranging the play date sent at around 9.00 surely has to point toward something sinister? Let’s hope not though.

[Herlock Sholmes]

The police are certainly coming under fire for releasing those details.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/17/police-release-of-nicola-bulleys-personal-details-as-sexist-as-it-comes

[caz]

I think "private" vulnerabilities could refer to some problems in the marriage or relationship, too.
Did police try tracker dogs and still fail to find any trace of Nicola? Very weird, if so, though I guess that area might be cluttered with the scents of all sorts of people and other dogs.
Cadaver dogs probably aren't warranted, as they assume she was alive at the time of her disappearance.

Edited to add another thought: How could she assure drowning in the river? Do as Virginia Woolf, and load her pockets with stones to weigh her down.

I don't buy the river as a 'solution' to Lancashire Police's problems.

[caz]

agree DK
and im firmly in the first camp. and i like how you said health issues too, because mental health issues is the same thing. would police hesitate to tell the public if a missing person was diabetic, and needs medication? no they do it all the time and rightly so. we need to get rid of the stigma that mental health issues are somehow embarrassing or something to be ashamed of.

Is the menopause now to be defined as a mental illness??

[caz]

Its a tough issue for sure, but IMHO as soon as the police knew of her "specific vulnerability" they should have let everyone know, especially the dive team. Again, I think full transperancy is best in these types of situations. In the case of a missing person--The more the public knows, the more they can be of assistance, and less confusion. but thats just my opinion.

I agree to a certain extent, Abby, but the finer details could have been kept back. Millions of women have to cope with similar problems with the menopause, so it doesn't follow, if one goes missing, that nobody else has harmed her.

Just a heads up that Nicola was considered high risk due to recent health concerns would surely have been sufficient.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

I do not understand why the dive team would need to be informed of the MISPERS personal circumstance.

There was no evidence, until yesterday, that this person had fallen foul of anything sinister.

Monty

Ask the dive team, Monty. They were working on the police theory that Nicola fell in the river accidentally and have said it could have made a difference in those early days to know about her specific vulnerabilities.

What's this new evidence that she fell foul of something sinister? I haven't seen that.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

A rather unfair and sweeping analogy Caz. This incident and that have no connectivity whatsoever.

Monty

Maybe not, Monty, except that Lancashire Police have now alerted Nicola, in the event she is still out there somewhere, taking time out, to the fact that the whole world now knows about her deeply personal health issues. What effect that could have on her already vulnerable state does not bear thinking about.

The killer of Sarah Everard was known as "The Rapist" among his fellow officers. Is it an unfair or sweeping statement to say the police in general need to clean up their act concerning their attitude towards vulnerable women everywhere?

Love,

Caz
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[Dickere]

agree DK
and im firmly in the first camp. and i like how you said health issues too, because mental health issues is the same thing. would police hesitate to tell the public if a missing person was diabetic, and needs medication? no they do it all the time and rightly so. we need to get rid of the stigma that mental health issues are somehow embarrassing or something to be ashamed of.

Agree, but the problem with unseen health issues is that anyone can claim to have them. Very quickly, every missing person case is top of the list due to mental health high-risk issues, otherwise their family won't be treated as a priority case.

[Bridewell]

If the body is weighed down, how did it get up and over the weir?

Quite. More likely to be trapped under tree roots close to the bank.

[Wickerman]

I think "private" vulnerabilities could refer to some problems in the marriage or relationship, too.
Did police try tracker dogs and still fail to find any trace of Nicola? Very weird, if so, though I guess that area might be cluttered with the scents of all sorts of people and other dogs.
Cadaver dogs probably aren't warranted, as they assume she was alive at the time of her disappearance.

Edited to add another thought: How could she assure drowning in the river? Do as Virginia Woolf, and load her pockets with stones to weigh her down.

If the body is weighed down, how did it get up and over the weir?

[FISHY1118]

agree DK
and im firmly in the first camp. and i like how you said health issues too, because mental health issues is the same thing. would police hesitate to tell the public if a missing person was diabetic, and needs medication? no they do it all the time and rightly so. we need to get rid of the stigma that mental health issues are somehow embarrassing or something to be ashamed of.

Spot on .

[Pcdunn]

got it. but reading between the lines it sounds like they are implying mental issues and suicide by drowning does it not?

I think "private" vulnerabilities could refer to some problems in the marriage or relationship, too.
Did police try tracker dogs and still fail to find any trace of Nicola? Very weird, if so, though I guess that area might be cluttered with the scents of all sorts of people and other dogs.
Cadaver dogs probably aren't warranted, as they assume she was alive at the time of her disappearance.

Edited to add another thought: How could she assure drowning in the river? Do as Virginia Woolf, and load her pockets with stones to weigh her down.

[Abby Normal]

You’ve got one half saying “why didn’t you say she’d got health issues”, and the other half saying “how dare you tell people she’s got health issues”!!
The police just couldn't win.

Regards Darryl

agree DK
and im firmly in the first camp. and i like how you said health issues too, because mental health issues is the same thing. would police hesitate to tell the public if a missing person was diabetic, and needs medication? no they do it all the time and rightly so. we need to get rid of the stigma that mental health issues are somehow embarrassing or something to be ashamed of.