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  • Smollett is the suspect.

    For anyone following this story it seems we are now entering the championship rounds.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/20/e...ack/index.html
    My opinion is all I have to offer here,

    Dave.

    Smilies are canned laughter.

  • #2
    Can't say I do follow this one, mainly because there really are more important issues in the world right now than trying to figure out if some attention-seeking twat is faking his own assault or not, like the knowledge of painfully stupid quotes like

    "There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside", David Davis, 10 October 2016
    "The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want", Michael Gove, 9 April 2016
    "Most of the EU states are very sympathetic to our view", David Davis, 15 May 2017
    “Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards.” John Redwood, July 2016.
    "Within two years [...] we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU … The new trade agreements will come into force at the point of exit, but they will be fully negotiated", David Davis, 14 July 2016
    [too many stupid quotes by Boris Johnson to fit on the server hosting Casebook]

    And now for a REAL gem:
    “The Conservative party will ensure that we fulfil our duty in ensuring that stability, so that we can all, as one country go forward together.” – Theresa May, June 2017.

    OR

    how to rid the world of the American President being in the pockets of the Russians as well as breaking all known records in self-dealing corruption and rampant narcissism.

    OR

    how to get the world to finally realise that any meaningful attempts to lessen the impact of catastrophic climate-change WILL affect the bottom line but at the same time, it needs to be done.

    OR

    me trying to tell my daughter that telling lies is a bad thing while the news are on in the background.

    I could go on and on and on and on but I need to go back to work, my boss is already checking up on me....

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    • #3
      https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ause-real-harm

      How catastrophically dumb would you have to be, to engage in a criminal conspiracy, and then pay your henchmen with a cheque???
      - Ginger

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ginger View Post
        https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ause-real-harm

        How catastrophically dumb would you have to be, to engage in a criminal conspiracy, and then pay your henchmen with a cheque???


        The only thing dumber would have been to write on the cheque "For hoax homophobic/racist attack".

        Smollett is an individual who has been in a privileged showbiz bubble from an early age, exposed to radical ideologies like the black panther movement. His view of Trump supporters seems to be one of caricature.....

        Two MAGA hat wearing rednecks out in arctic conditions carrying bleach and a noose in the hope of running into someone black or gay or both to lynch....then the Trump cherry on top of the racist Sundae.....Chicago is apparently "MAGA country". His story sounds like one a child would come up with on the spot.


        So why did Smollett do this beyond trying paint his political enemies in a certain light? Well what would have happened if he had got away with this?

        ◘ Increased fame and instant sympathy as a victim.

        ◘ He would have been front and centre at the Oscars/Emmys.

        ◘ He would have been the anti-Trump poster boy for 2020.

        ◘ It would and did help the Booker/Harris anti-lynching bill.

        ◘ His failing TV show would have got increased viewing figures.

        ◘ A boost to his mediocre music career.

        ◘ Film/TV roles would have poured in.

        ◘ Like Majikthise and Vroomfondel he would be on all on the chat shows and with a clever agent, he’d be on the gravy train for life.



        It's clear this victim chique has so much secondary gain that the rewards are too great to turn down, and the disappointment by the MSM that this is a hoax and America is not as racist or homophobic as they like to portray is palpable.

        Smollett who a decade ago threw his own brother under the bus by pretending to be him when he was caught during a DUI clearly has not learned his lesson about making false statements to the police....he has to experience a part of the justice system that he thought he never would.

        Jussie needs jail time.....but given we are now getting the line "he has an untreated drug problem" it seems he is going to go down the victim road again during his defence.


        I'm off to subway....I fancy a foot-long veggie patty.

        Last edited by DirectorDave; 03-04-2019, 02:23 PM.
        My opinion is all I have to offer here,

        Dave.

        Smilies are canned laughter.

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        • #5
          https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ck-allegations

          "Jussie Smollett indicted on 16 felony counts following Chicago attack allegations". Yeah, attempting to use the police and prosecutor as cat's paws in a high profile case is something you probably ought to avoid if your idea of an effective criminal conspiracy includes paying the expenses via personal cheque. Do I understand aright, the Feds are now looking into his history as well.

          - Ginger

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DirectorDave View Post



            The only thing dumber would have been to write on the cheque "For hoax homophobic/racist attack".

            Smollett is an individual who has been in a privileged showbiz bubble from an early age, exposed to radical ideologies like the black panther movement. His view of Trump supporters seems to be one of caricature.....

            Two MAGA hat wearing rednecks out in arctic conditions carrying bleach and a noose in the hope of running into someone black or gay or both to lynch....then the Trump cherry on top of the racist Sundae.....Chicago is apparently "MAGA country". His story sounds like one a child would come up with on the spot.


            So why did Smollett do this beyond trying paint his political enemies in a certain light? Well what would have happened if he had got away with this?

            ◘ Increased fame and instant sympathy as a victim.

            ◘ He would have been front and centre at the Oscars/Emmys.

            ◘ He would have been the anti-Trump poster boy for 2020.

            ◘ It would and did help the Booker/Harris anti-lynching bill.

            ◘ His failing TV show would have got increased viewing figures.

            ◘ A boost to his mediocre music career.

            ◘ Film/TV roles would have poured in.

            ◘ Like Majikthise and Vroomfondel he would be on all on the chat shows and with a clever agent, he’d be on the gravy train for life.
            That is quite an insight into the mind of a juvenile prick but while I don't doubt your ability to have considerable insights into his thinking, let me point out why his thinking is incorrect on most points:

            ◘ Increased fame and instant sympathy as a victim.
            => Probably correct. who wouldn't sympathise with a victim? We all have varying levels of empathy in our bones.

            ◘ He would have been front and centre at the Oscars/Emmys.
            => The experience of other MAGA assault and attempted murder victims would not suggest that. Robert de Niro, Maxine Waters, Eric Holder and Rakeem Jones do not seem to have had prominent outings at recent Hollywood Award events. "Who is Rakeem Jones?" you might ask? He is the guy who was punched by the old fella with a cowboy hat at MAGA Rally in 2016 and the question proves exactly my point.

            ◘ He would have been the anti-Trump poster boy for 2020.
            => Robert de Niro was probably more of an Anti-Trump poster boy before he received the mail-bomb than now. besides, the real Anti-Trump poster-boy for 2020 will be Donald J.Trump himself.

            ◘ It would and did help the Booker/Harris anti-lynching bill.
            => Is lynchuing still legal? if so, then they better get their boots on.

            ◘ His failing TV show would have got increased viewing figures.
            I'm not aware of any MAGA victims having increased viewing figures. Except Trump himself of course who is obsessed with viewing figures. We all like a good horror-movie, don't we? I admit to tuning in when he holds one of his off-the-script pressers. It's like car-crash-porn for me....

            ◘ A boost to his mediocre music career.
            => Ditto

            ◘ Film/TV roles would have poured in.
            => Ditto

            ◘ Like Majikthise and Vroomfondel he would be on all on the chat shows and with a clever agent, he’d be on the gravy train for life.
            => Ditto

            Originally posted by DirectorDave View Post
            It's clear this victim chique has so much secondary gain that the rewards are too great to turn down, and the disappointment by the MSM that this is a hoax and America is not as racist or homophobic as they like to portray is palpable.
            It's the FBI's own report. The so-called MSM simply report on the FBIs own report. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rise-us-report

            Originally posted by DirectorDave View Post
            Smollett who a decade ago threw his own brother under the bus by pretending to be him when he was caught during a DUI clearly has not learned his lesson about making false statements to the police....he has to experience a part of the justice system that he thought he never would.

            Jussie needs jail time.....but given we are now getting the line "he has an untreated drug problem" it seems he is going to go down the victim road again during his defence.
            Sure he needs jail time and his actions need to be judged against his deeds and not against the broader political picture. Where would the US be as a country if her judges allowed political partisanship to become a factor in sentencing..?

            Originally posted by DirectorDave View Post
            I'm off to subway....I fancy a foot-long veggie patty.
            No objections, your honour, but I would highly recommend the meatball-upgrade on the foot-long.

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            • #7
              dude has issue-whats it called? munchausen syndrome?
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • #8
                Been a bad couple weeks for "big name actors" that I've never heard of before. https://www.foxnews.com/us/felicity-...uthorities-say
                - Ginger

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                  dude has issue-whats it called? munchausen syndrome?
                  Sorry, who you're referring to?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Svensson View Post

                    Sorry, who you're referring to?
                    Smollett. Didnt he also recently send threatening letters to himself
                    "Is all that we see or seem
                    but a dream within a dream?"

                    -Edgar Allan Poe


                    "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                    quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                    -Frederick G. Abberline

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ginger View Post

                      How catastrophically dumb would you have to be, to engage in a criminal conspiracy, and then pay your henchmen with a cheque???
                      You tell me.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post

                        You tell me.

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                        Except, of course, that Trump engaged in no conspiracy with Cohen. Haven't you been following the news?
                        - Ginger

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

                          Smollett. Didn't he also recently send threatening letters to himself
                          Yeah, looks like he sent the letter....as it has fake ricin he could be up on federal terrorism charges too.


                          I had to check if Munchhausen was still in the DSM 5, I thought it would be lobbed in with another personality disorder by now, but it is still in.

                          My pop psychology makes me think he is more borderline.

                          My opinion is all I have to offer here,

                          Dave.

                          Smilies are canned laughter.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ginger View Post

                            Except, of course, that Trump engaged in no conspiracy with Cohen. Haven't you been following the news?
                            Yes, we have all be reading the news but I think the above statement of "Trump engaged in no conspiracy with Cohen" is quite a stretch, no? So, just to make sure that we all are on the same page, here are the facts:

                            Cohen was convicted (amongst other things) for Campaign finance violations, i.e. for the payment to Stormy Daniels. Quote from https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...gn-finance-law:
                            • "During the 2016 election, Cohen paid $130,000 to adult film actress Stephanie Clifford, known as Stormy Daniels, and arranged for a publishing company to pay $150,000 to model Karen McDougal for her story in exchange for the women agreeing to not go public with allegations that they had affairs with Trump. (Trump has denied having affairs with either Clifford or McDougal.)
                            • Prosecutors said the purpose of the hush payments was to influence the 2016 election, and treated them as campaign contributions, which are subject to restrictions under the Federal Election Campaign Act.
                            • Cohen’s payment to Clifford, they said, exceeded the $2,700 limit on personal contributions to a single candidate for an election. The payment he helped arrange for McDougal flouted the ban on corporations contributing directly to campaigns."
                            Further to this, Cohen stated that he had done this at the direction to Donald Trump and provided audio evidence that proved that Cohen and Trump were talking about HOW the payments should be made. Finally, Cohen alleged that he was later re-reimbursed by various payments from Trump and the Trump Organisation with the express aim to obfuscate the purpose of the payments. This was done with the knowledge of Trump Org CFO Alan Weizelberg ("Weizelberg, straight ahead!", lol....) and Trump, thus making it a three-person conspiracy. These are the allegations and this is currently investigated by SDNY.

                            Finally, AMI (the National Enquirer publisher) had agreed to co-operate with the Special Counsel and admitted publically and in court that "it made the $150,000 payment in concert with Trump's campaign,"(https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/12/fede...-immunity.html)

                            So there are two independent allegations and they have both been stated in court:
                            1. That Trump has conspired with Cohen and AMI to commit campaign finance violations in the Karen McDougal case.
                            2. That Trump has conspired with Cohen to commit campaign finance violations in the Stormy Daniels case.

                            Thing is, all of this has not yet been tested in court, which is the only reason why "Trump engaged in no conspiracy with Cohen" can just about still be stated as fact. But if you had to put a thousand bucks on it, where would your money honestly go?
                            Last edited by Svensson; 03-18-2019, 10:51 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Seriously, George Conway is on to something here. How come, this is not called the Donald Trump Disorder ?

                              Narcissistic personality disorder

                              Symptoms
                              Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

                              Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
                              Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
                              Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
                              Exaggerate achievements and talents
                              Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
                              Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
                              Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
                              Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
                              Take advantage of others to get what they want
                              Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
                              Be envious of others and believe others envy them
                              Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
                              Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office

                              At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

                              Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
                              Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
                              React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
                              Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
                              Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
                              Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
                              Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation


                              Serious discussion: is this a 95% match for DJT or a 100% match? Each bullet point could be decorated with 3 or 4 examples from the world of DJT. And that's just off the top of my head (a big head, the most amazing big head ever. I have shown my head to some of my colleagues, and they couldn't believe what a beautiful head I have ...)

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