Drunken elk discovered in apple tree

[Carol]

Hi Carol.

Dozy doats, did you know that?
Archaic

That delightful song is amongst my very first memories, Archaic. My mother was always singing the popular songs of the day and 'Maresy doats and Dozy doats' came out during World War 11. As I was born in 1946 Mum was still singing her favourite war songs even when I became old enough to remember things. I also have fond memories of joining my mother in the singing as I grew older. Especially when we were washing up. Always the pop songs of the day. Although when Mum was feeling a bit sentimental we sang popular Irish songs - Grandma was Irish but had died of a stroke at the age of 52 just before Christmas 1946.

A little story - Mum was just about the first person I knew personally who became a fan of that new fad 'rock 'n roll'. At the time (I was about 9 when it first came out, I think) I thought it was absolutely AWFUL. One day when the film 'Rock Around the Clock' (with Bill Haley and his Comets) came to our local cinema Mum said to my brother and me: 'I'm going to take you two to see 'Rock Around the Clock'. Freddy thought the same as me at the time - he was only 5 anyway! 'You'll enjoy it' said Mum. It was the most boring film I'd ever seen up to that date.

Now, I was grown-up before I realised what had no doubt happened then. I can easily imagine my Mum telling her friends that she was going to take 'her two' to the Ritz to see the 'Rock' film. I can also easily imagine her saying something like 'Carol and Freddy are such great fans of Rock and Roll. Of course, I'll be terribly bored! Bless their hearts!'.

It wasn't until Tommy Steele came onto the Rock scene that I started to like Rock 'n Roll. I think Mum enjoyed herself at the Ritz, although she never said anything.

She was also the first female in our family, and in our road, to have her ears pierced. She took me with her for support (I was about 10 then). I had to wait outside the shop until she came out. Everything went well and after a few weeks there were many more female ears pierced in Sydney Road. Not forgetting Mum's four sisters (Auntie Doll, Auntie Cissie, Auntie Rene and Auntie Ivy) who all went together.

She was a lovely Mum.

Love from me,
Carol

P.S. Strange to say, but Mum's best friend (Auntie Freda to me and Freddy) never got her ears pierced. Nor did I when I grew up. One of life's deep and enduring mysteries.

[Sister Hyde]

Hi there, Sister Hyde!
Yes, I certainly do! I think they are gorgeous - I always get upset every year when it's 'moose annihilating time'. How anyone can shoot them for pleasure is beyond me. By the way, my Swedish husband says that he thinks the älg in question could be a very young male, probably only about 18 months old. Bless his little cotton socks (the älg, I mean).
Love
Carol

P.S. Per-Åke now says that our local newspaper, Göteborg Posten, says the elk is a cow! I know, just be grateful that he isn't your husband.

We got quite some problems in Bohuslän with my ex husband, first we got ran after by the hunters in the forest right behind our house for tearing down their little green tarpauline shelters and then the year after the farmers complained about the wolves being back and eating their sheeps, the governement proposed them to strenghten their protections around the farms, even then, they kept complaining like "no not good enough, we want the right to shoot them". so there started to be arguments again and luckily we were not the only ones, all was supported by the staff from Nordens Ark less than 10 kms away from home and all the students from the "gymnasiums" in Uddevalla were contaminated for signing petitions, but I think in the end yhey still allowed the stupid inbred hunters from Hedekas and Dingle to hunt them

[DirectorDave]

I remember watching a wildlife programme some years ago....it showed monkeys that used to hang about a beach bar then raid it when unfinished drinks were left or unattended. It also stated that the percentage of tee-total monkeys was the same as in humans.

[Archaic]

I remember watching a wildlife programme some years ago....it showed monkeys that used to hang about a beach bar then raid it when unfinished drinks were left or unattended. It also stated that the percentage of tee-total monkeys was the same as in humans.

I would not want to meet a baboon when the horrors of banana daquiris are upon him.

[Carol]

Hi everyone!

The latest news on the elk is that she has now recovered and was last seen heading into the woods on Friday and hasn't been seen since. No doubt she's been put on 'time out' after showing the whole family up on the telly.

Love
Carol

[Carol]

We got quite some problems in Bohuslän with my ex husband, first we got ran after by the hunters in the forest right behind our house for tearing down their little green tarpauline shelters and then the year after the farmers complained about the wolves being back and eating their sheeps, the governement proposed them to strenghten their protections around the farms, even then, they kept complaining like "no not good enough, we want the right to shoot them". so there started to be arguments again and luckily we were not the only ones, all was supported by the staff from Nordens Ark less than 10 kms away from home and all the students from the "gymnasiums" in Uddevalla were contaminated for signing petitions, but I think in the end yhey still allowed the stupid inbred hunters from Hedekas and Dingle to hunt them

Hi Sister Hyde!

'They' are still quarrelling about the poor wolves. It isn't as if we have huge numbers of them in Sweden. The poor things are still dangerously close to extinction. I think 'they' gave the hunters permission to shoot about SIX. That doesn't exactly help the wolf population, does it?

By the way - yesterday I just looked in on 'What song are you listening to' and I saw your post ABOUT YOUR BABY CRYING! So the little darling has arrived and I missed the announcement (probably when we were in England). So here's a rather late CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BIRTH OF YOUR LITTLE BOY and I HOPE BOTH OF YOU ARE WELL AND ENJOYING THIS LOVELY TIME (although I know it is a lot of hard work for Mamma).

Lots of love
Carol

[Sister Hyde]

Hi Carol,

My boy will soon not be a baby anymore, soon 2 years old lol (big smörgåstårta with kräft and skagenröra on the menu, but thank you anyway I still enjoy and over-love him daily and can't possibly think of doing without(I never had to deal with "baby whims" before because he's always been such a sweet child, but the past 3 weeks have been quite something lol).

And yes, I know they have granted the farmers the right to shoot the wolves anyway, bunch of retards!... sorry it came out by itself.I mean in worst case they still would be better off in Nordens Ark or so, at least untill the yokels settle down. I often get news from certain colleagues from östrabo gymnasium, keeping me informed about how they are ruining our beautiful nature and fauna. It's lucky a lot of people there do actively care about it still even if they are useless in front of official decisions. Pretty much the same people you find at the Hornbore ting in august

[Abby Normal]

An unusual story from the BBC (including a photo):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14842999

Thats too funny!
We moved into a new house about five years ago that has an apple tree in the back yard and i used to find deer laying down and/or asleep under it all the time.

Now I know why! Drunken Ungulates! HaHaHa!!!!

[Carol]

Hi Sister Hyde!
I was even later than I thought, wasn't I? Your little son sounds lovely.
Love
Carol

[Abby Normal]

You're quite right Chris - which is why Elkoholics Anonymoose was set up.

winner winner Chicken dinner!!!!

[Rubyretro]

Oh Dear.

I was reading Carol & Sister's comments about wolves and hunters and wondering whether to reply and make myself unpopular once again....but I guess that I'll just have to do it.

I was a Sheep Farmer in France for some years, I am friends with lots of (organic) Farmers still, I'm a 'country' person at heart, I love animals, and I eat meat.

The whole 'balance' between farming, hunting, and wild predators is a very complicated thing, and it is not helped by inpractical sentimentality,nor
cold arrogance, on the part of people when considering animals.

-If you're Vegetarian for ethical reasons, that's one thing (although obviously if everyone was Vegetarian we simply wouldn't have fields of cows and sheep etc -they would end up in zoos as rare exhibits, and the consequences for
the upkeep of the countryside and the use the land they vacated would be put to, is a whole other discussion).

-If you're a meat eater, then you have to consider whether you agree with battery farming, or you want farm animals to wander free (and as a by-product, keep down the undergrowth and create 'fire breaks' in woodland). If you're going to eat the animals, you might also ask yourself whether you want the animals to choose their own wild plants for food (thus 'nursing' their own illnesses through instinct -and, yes, tasting much better), or be fed food brought into their pen (which is obviously mass produced).

-If you think that animals, like sheep and goats should be allowed to pasture freely on the mountainsides and forests (and as I said, that has a practical side for the mangement of the land as well as happy animals), then they are going to meet predators.

-Where I was pasturing my animals in the summer in the pre-Alpes (and in the South of France they need fresh grass and water -it's impossible to keep them happily in the Plain), there were wolves.

-What do you think happens when a flock of timid, herbivore, peaceful, sheep are attacked by a few (the wolves move in packs) absolutely hysterically excited predators ? They get their throats ripped out, they abort en-mass from fear, they crush themselves to death in a tight corner, or they run over the cliff -that's what.

Wolves behave (more or less) like stray dogs that get into a field, or a fox in a hencoop : they don't kill one or two animals for food, they massacre what they can get at, 'for fun', and the other animals die of terror.

- The Government reimburses only those animals proved to have been killed by a wolf (ie with the throat ripped out), and the other 'casualties' aren't counted. So a Farmer on the breadline (as many are), have to sustain enormous losses financially -and people are sentimentally attached to their Flock. They know alot of their animals individually (I did !). They see miscarried foetuses, and they see lambs that they would have spent all night awake to help be born, or bottle feed if need be.

-How can you blame a Farmer who goes night after night without sleep to guard his Flock with his gun, against attack ? Of course he will shoot a wolf if one approaches ! It seems normal to me to protect your own.

-As for Hunters ...most of those that I have met have effectively been very
stupid. However, they 'manage' the numbers of wild animals by planting for them, making sure there is water in the summer, breeding, and they generally 'know' them better then any 'Townie'. I am sick at the thought of them firing away under migratory flights of small birds -but I don't think that we would have the wild Boars that we do without them. I love eating wild Boar...I think that it's much better tasting than battery farmed pork -and the meat came from a happier, healthier, free ranging animal.

[Chris]

Well, by the rules of this site, the original poster is entitled to protection against disruption of the real purpose of the thread.

So ... the real purpose of this thread was to have a laugh about some Swedes finding a drunken elk in an apple tree. All serious comments, and especially all acrimonious arguments, are alien to the purpose of this thread, and should be taken to http://www.issuesaroundswedishecology.gov.se/

Please can someone post some more dismal puns on the theme of drunken elks in apple trees?

[Chris]

This is the best I can do for the moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5u8E4s57I0

I wonder whether it was ever covered by Elkie Brooks ...

[Archaic]

On behalf of my pal Carol I will now regale you with the old Swedish joke:

'An elk walks into a bar, and says to the bartender-

"I'll have what the bloke in the tree just had!" '


Archaic

[Carol]

On behalf of my pal Carol I will now regale you with the old Swedish joke:

'An elk walks into a bar, and says to the bartender-

"I'll have what the bloke in the tree just had!" '


Archaic

Very funny joke, Archaic! I'm sure you could make a packet as a stand-up comic!
Love
Carol