Jeremy Beadle

[Robert]

You guys think you're old? I was going to ask Howard Brown what happened just after the big bang - and then I remembered that eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable.

[Stewart P Evans]

Okay...

You guys think you're old? I was going to ask Howard Brown what happened just after the big bang - and then I remembered that eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable.

Okay, okay, so you got your old fart award before Don and me.

[Monty]

Stewart, Paul,

In all seriousness, your experiences are invaluable and very much still at the pinnicale of the field.

The story of that meeting in Camilles bedroom brings fond memories of London Job meetings in recent years.

The wheel turns yet the axel remains still, and at the centre.

Monty

[Stewart P Evans]

Regrets

One of my regrets is that, over the years, Paul and I have had somewhat polarised opinions and have not, perhaps, worked together as well as we might have done. But, despite some of our spats, we do have great respect for each other and Ripperology should be thankful for Paul's (and Martin's) pioneering work in bringing the subject onto a more sensible level at a time that such improvement was needed.

[PaulB]

One of my regrets is that, over the years, Paul and I have had somewhat polarised opinions and have not, perhaps, worked together as well as we might have done. But, despite some of our spats, we do have great respect for each other and Ripperology should be thankful for Paul's (and Martin's) pioneering work in bringing the subject onto a more sensible level at a time that such improvement was needed.

My regret, too, Stewart, but water under the bridge. Pretty soon we'll be able to insult each other and not take offense, as we do with Keith! You insult him and I don't take offense and I insult him and you don't take offense.

[Magpie]

I think part of the reason why Paul and Stewart are such behemoths in the field is precisely because they can disgree, even fervently disagree, without dragging the debate into a quagmire.

They manage to inspire and educate even with their hands around each other's metaphorical throats....

[Robert]

Actually, I detect a kind of sunset feel to this thread, which is inappropriate, because you fellows are still the ones best placed to make new discoveries.

[Magpie]

I have but two real regrets in my Ripperological existence (so far)--that I never met Mr. Beadle, and that I never got to say a proper goodbye and thank you to Adrian Phyper.

[Stewart P Evans]

Behemoth

I think part of the reason why Paul and Stewart are such behemoths in the field is precisely because they can disgree, even fervently disagree, without dragging the debate into a quagmire.
They manage to inspire and educate even with their hands around each other's metaphorical throats....

Bloody hell, I'm a behemoth! I shall have to get onto that diet again.

[Monty]

One of my regrets is that, over the years, Paul and I have had somewhat polarised opinions and have not, perhaps, worked together as well as we might have done. But, despite some of our spats, we do have great respect for each other and Ripperology should be thankful for Paul's (and Martin's) pioneering work in bringing the subject onto a more sensible level at a time that such improvement was needed.

Comparing only, no way suggesting on a par, however Rob Clack and I have had similar spats however we discuss it for 20 minutes and decide I was correct*.

Seriously, spats are unavoidable at times when one is discussing a subject they care about and have been involved in for many years. I have had many, regretted most and learnt from them all.

One thing I will say is that this field has produced some of my most valued of friends. I have been truly lucky.

Monty


*thank you Brian Clough

[ChrisGeorge]

I have but two real regrets in my Ripperological existence (so far)--that I never met Mr. Beadle, and that I never got to say a proper goodbye and thank you to Adrian Phyper.

Hi Magpie

I did have the pleasure of meeting Jeremy Beadle on a number of occasions, and he was a thoroughly good chap, deserving of the accolades that he continues to receive. I remember him fondly, even for the time he introduced me as Chris Scott preceding my talk on Tumblety at the Brighton conference.

I never did meet Adrian M. Phypers before his untimely death, so I share your regret, Magpie, that I never met him. I came across a letter from Adrian recently signed with his Viper signature, a drawing of a snake in the shape of a "V" which came with some material that he had mailed to me. I will be forever in his debt for leads on research that he provided to me, and for the memories of encountering him in the chat rooms under his screen name of "Blue Coat Boy."

Best regards

Chris

[Rob Clack]

Comparing only, no way suggesting on a par, however Rob Clack and I have had similar spats however we discuss it for 20 minutes and decide I was correct*.

Seriously, spats are unavoidable at times when one is discussing a subject they care about and have been involved in for many years. I have had many, regretted most and learnt from them all.

One thing I will say is that this field has produced some of my most valued of friends. I have been truly lucky.

Monty


*thank you Brian Clough

I think you will find I humour you 'Old Big Ed'

Rob

[Monty]

I think you will find I humour you 'Old Big Ed'

Rob

Thank you Peter Taylor, or is it Timothy Spall?

Viper was one of the first people to contact me when I first started on Casebook. He didn't have to but he did, and taught me oh so much.

We often exchanged on football matters too, Adrian was a big Leyton Orient fan. I was truly saddened by his death and everytime I use the Newspapers resource ( a feature Viper was the drive behind) here on Casebook I think of him.

Monty

PS Rob, BBM you later mate, re Friday.

[Rob Clack]

Thank you Peter Taylor, or is it Timothy Spall?

Viper was one of the first people to contact me when I first started on Casebook. He didn't have to but he did, and taught me oh so much.

We often exchanged on football matters too, Adrian was a big Leyton Orient fan. I was truly saddened by his death and everytime I use the Newspapers resource ( a feature Viper was the drive behind) here on Casebook I think of him.

Monty

PS Rob, BBM you later mate, re Friday.

I'm prefer Bill Shankley myself.

I've never had the pleasure of communicating with Adrian myself, which was a pity.

Ok.

Rob

[Supe]

All,

Threads like this one give me hope. I've recently had a lengthy correspondence with a friend in England in which we lamented the current state of Ripperology: lots of relatively new posters with no sense of history, no sense of decorum and theories that make sense only to the propounder. And then you get a thread like this.

Of course, Paul, Neil, Stewart, Chris Rob and Robert have never been anything but gentlemen.

Don.