Rioting in UK capital

[lynn cates]

better times

Hello Robert. Heh-heh.

Here's to better times in the UK.

Cheers.
LC

[Ally]

The whole boo hoo over disadvantaged youth totally frosts me. I would wager that probably more than half of the people on the planet would give anything to trade places with the most "disadvantaged" citizen of the UK or the US.

In both of these countries you have economic freedom, religious freedom, educational freedom and opportunities that are unprecedented in most of the world.

And all the people in these two countries do is whine how they aren't given a chance and are so oppressed. Spoiled rotten pampered morons is what they are. They think they are oppressed? Try being a woman in saudi arabia. Try being an average joe in Rwanda for a week. Ship them off there, and let them experience some real oppression and then maybe the little bastards will appreciate how good they have it.

[ChrisGeorge]

The whole boo hoo over disadvantaged youth totally frosts me. I would wager that probably more than half of the people on the planet would give anything to trade places with the most "disadvantaged" citizen of the UK or the US.

A lot of them were out to get themselves a better Blackberry or a newer pair of name brand track shoes. So not disadvantaged. Just greedy and wontonly destructive.

[Chris]

"My colleague Randeep Ramesh says Nottingham city centre is quiet, with police cars and officers, some on horseback, patrolling the main shopping precincts."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/10/uk-riots-fifth-night-live

Hmm. Maybe things aren't so good, if police cars are having to patrol on horseback. It's the horses I feel sorry for.

[Hunter]

Make 'em do community service in Somalia for just a few days... with no Black Hawk helicopters for support.

[Robert]

It's crowded enough in these shopping malls, without a police car on the escalator.

[Robert]

I suspect a lot of you will have been worrying about this, but now I can set your minds at rest : the MPs won't be losing out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14474423

[Chris]

I suspect a lot of you will have been worrying about this, but now I can set your minds at rest : the MPs won't be losing out.

"MPs who still have much of their holidays remaining after Thursday's debate could also be reimbursed for the cost of returning to their destination, he added."

Never let it be said that our legislators are out of touch with the realities of everyday life.

A quick photo-opportunity with a broom, and then back to the villa in Tuscany ...

[mariab]

There might be some good that comes out of this whole thing.

As in what? Urban renewal?

[Limehouse]

Really? So the UK doesn't offer free education to everyone? Basic education isn't mandatory?

There aren't any jobs to be had there? Not even cleaning toilets or washing cars for the rich people?

It's an absolute truth that - if you grow up in the care system in the UK - you are more likely to end up in prison than at university. Absolutely true.

Yes - it is possible to recover from a difficult start in life (I've done it myself) but you need a strong network of people prepared to help you out a bit. Sadly - today - that network is fragile and many people end up in situations that just get out of control.

As I said before - I am not excusing this disgusting behaviour - but there are people in genuine need - there really are - and they need compassion and a hand up - not hand outs. However - as my daughter pointed out - "Mum - however poor you are - you would never go out and smash up the town and steal things - and neither would your parents have done so" This is true - and that's because I have a strong moral compass. That partly stems from my up-bringing in a close-knit working class community. I am afraid those strong networks have been erroded and materialism is more important that community values.

Who has taught our young people about morality? The MPs who were caught with their noses in the trough? The policemen of senior ranks who had top resign because they were found to be corrupt? The newspaper owners and editors who invaded the privacy of people in their most desperate hours and then lied about their involvement? The footballers who flaunt their wealth and cheat on their partners?

[Natalie Severn]

Do wake up and read what has been going on in parliament and with bankers in the past 18 months!
We have examples not only from those born with a silver spoon in their mouths --- our London mayor and prime minister have hit the headlines causing just the sort of riotous behaviour we are witnessing ob a somewhat smaller scale ---when , in their "student days" -- they took great pleasure having fun smashing up pubs , breaking windows ,strewing broken bottles and chairs around Oxford streets as was the case when they held court at the Bullingdon club---the violent playground of the rich and privileged---- why is it so 'unexpected' from the pooreer members of society?

More importantly when theft to the tune of millions of pounds is the hobby of the greedy rich ---as for example witnessed by certain bankers [who we as tax payers have bailed out for their anarchic gambling on the stock exchange], when we the tax payers have to witness theft after theft, dodge after dodge by MP's stealing from us via bogus taxation claims to pay for the cleaning of their castles and moats and the purchase of their second homes? What sort of an example is all this from those who govern us?
Ok some are now gradually being brought to justice and are now serving long term prison sentences but what can people expect with this sort of an example is this from those at the top of the social and economic tree?What sort of example? When large numbers of your government are guilty of criminal activities on such massive scale?

one rule for the rich---another for the poor

[Chris]

... MP's stealing from us via bogus taxation claims to pay for the cleaning of their castles and moats and the purchase of their second homes?

To be fair, if I were a Tory MP, I think I'd be making sure my moat was in full working order just at the moment ...

[DirectorDave]

When rioting was occuring all over England, in Scotland's largest city 50000 odd football fans turned up for a charity match to raise money for the East Africa Appeal.

Still Scotland has sent a few riot police down to help them, perhaps if the tartan rozzers get a bit jiggy with the locals in their spare time it might help to water-down the English uncivilized blood.

[brummie]

person coming out of this with most credit Tariq Jahan, father of man killed protecting his community.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-14481061

least credit goes to David Cameron our so called leader.Ordinary people on twitter took 8 hours to organise a clean up of Birmingham after the riots,4days before we get a word from Cameron.
And the other Chuckle Brother Nick Clegg who was apparently supposed to be in charge while Lord Snooty was on holiday, though you'd never know it,way out of his depth

Note to Cameron dont saunter back in and proclaim 'the fightback has started' it started while you were still sunning it in Italy. And Cleggy don't waste time saying police cuts are manageable because after selling your soul to the tories nobody believes a word you say anymore.

[harry]

I think it was Krushev who said there was no need for war,capitalism would destroy itself.Riots in London,and I see the sharemarkets taking another dive.Prophetic words.