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  • Bob Hinton
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    Originally posted by caz View Post
    Hi Bob,


    If you know you are not a bigot, good for you. You didn't need to deny it or disprove it, and nobody can turn you into one.

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    So what you are saying is that people shouldn't worry about being labelled if they know they do not deserve the label? Fair enough but I can't help but wonder if most people would mind being labelled a paedophile – even if they were sure they weren’t one.

    Don’t forget the people at the Salem Witch trials were pretty sure they weren’t witches – somehow I don’t think that gave them much comfort as they were being hung - of course I could be wrong there!

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  • caz
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    Originally posted by Bob Hinton View Post
    So let me see if I have this straight. Someone accuse me of being a xenophobe, the definition of which is: A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.

    I point out that I have absolutely no fear or contempt for that which is foreign and back it up with proof that I am in fact widely travelled and have many friends of all nationalities, races and creeds. However I am then accused of being some sort of ‘undercover’ xenophobe who goes around the world travelling and meeting people just so I can secretly hold them in contempt.

    Then you come up with the rather sneering remark posted above, which seems to imply that I really am a bigot, in spite of absolute proof to the contrary!

    So it seems that to smear someone’s reputation all that is necessary is for someone to stick a label on a person and that is that. Rather a bigoted attitude if you don’t mind me saying!

    So in this La La land the only people who aren't bigots are the ones who go around accusing everyone else!
    Hi Bob,

    Well you didn’t quite get things straight after my first post to this thread so I’m none too hopeful.

    Originally posted by caz View Post
    If we ever had a hostile visit from another planet, people would soon lose their irrational fear and loathing of human beings from other parts of our world.
    Originally posted by Bob Hinton View Post
    So if as you say our fear and loathing of other human beings is irrational - would you go and live in Zimbabwe or Somalia? I think not because you would find that your fear and loathing of certain people is far from 'irrational', but simply a device mechanism to keep you alive.
    I was of course referring only to people whose fear and loathing of ‘foreigners’ is irrational, ie based purely on the fact of them being ‘different’ and nothing else.

    I didn’t say your fear and loathing was irrational, yet you were quick to try the cap for size. And you are doing it again. If you know you are not a bigot, good for you. You didn't need to deny it or disprove it, and nobody can turn you into one. Bigots generally do all the work by themselves.

    Most are bright enough to realise they will look a bit wet if they admit to the primitive response of feeling scared or threatened by anyone a bit different, so they come up with supposedly rational, Daily Mail friendly explanations for these feelings, propped up by the copious use of ‘we’ and ‘us’: “they will take us over, steal all our jobs and make us change our way of life; it will be one law for us and another for them; they will make eyes at our women; the perishers won’t be blamed for nuffing; we are all off to hell in a handcart…”

    I wonder how much has really changed since the ripper’s day, and if it’s even possible that he used bigotry to justify his violently irrational misogynistic urges. What was a man to do? Sit back and watch while his territory was invaded, the neighbourhood went to pot and his womenfolk were screwed by the Jews? They wouldn’t get their paws on ‘our’ whores once he had finished with them.

    Love,

    Caz
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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by TomTomKent View Post
    I thought the Jewish chorus chose the thief Jesus Barbarossa?
    I gotta admit, the New Testament ain't exactly my bag, but that sounds about right.

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  • Zodiac
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    Welease Woderick!

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  • caz
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    Welease Woger!

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  • TomTomKent
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    Originally posted by Errata View Post
    Right? But there is some wacky story about how the Romans let the Jews choose one man to be pardoned and evidently we chose some murderer over Jesus, so now it's our fault. Cause god forbid we don't choose to pardon a crazy Roman collaborator with delusions of divinity.
    I thought the Jewish chorus chose the thief Jesus Barbarossa?

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by Limehouse View Post
    Strictly speaking - didn't the Romans kill Christ?
    Right? But there is some wacky story about how the Romans let the Jews choose one man to be pardoned and evidently we chose some murderer over Jesus, so now it's our fault. Cause god forbid we don't choose to pardon a crazy Roman collaborator with delusions of divinity.

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  • Stephen Thomas
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    Originally posted by Limehouse View Post
    Strictly speaking - didn't the Romans kill Christ?
    No, the Jews did or rather they didn't because he never existed.

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  • Limehouse
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    Originally posted by Errata View Post
    Okay, I don't want to derail or anything, but we had this problem here. Suddenly it was "holiday break" or "winter break" instead of Christmas break, holiday trees, happy holidays instead of merry Christmas...

    Which would have been fine, but four times out of five Hannukah is over long before Christmas (never mind being a holiday of little to no importance), Kwanzaa is not a religious celebration, and even Yule never falls on or about Christmas because of the calendar switch a few hundred years ago.

    So then instead of being inclusive, it just makes people look ignorant. "Happy Holidays!" "You know Hannukah has been over for six weeks now, right?" "Oh.."

    Pretty much the Jewish community (the only community particularly invested) had to say thanks, but no thanks. Give us a Menorah for Hannukah where you put your tree for Christmas, and you can have your Christmas season back.

    Happy Holidays... jeez. It's nice they recognize that there is in fact a Jewish community here, and I appreciate they want to do something for us, but keeping Christmas and stop telling your believers that we killed Christ would be slightly more meaningful and inclusive than "Happy Holidays".rant over.
    Strictly speaking - didn't the Romans kill Christ?

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by Bob Hinton View Post
    Really? That's funny didn't someone point out recently that the attempts to ban Christmas were not the work of immigrants but of PC brigade council officials.

    Interesting brigade this, appears and disappears at will!
    Okay, I don't want to derail or anything, but we had this problem here. Suddenly it was "holiday break" or "winter break" instead of Christmas break, holiday trees, happy holidays instead of merry Christmas...

    Which would have been fine, but four times out of five Hannukah is over long before Christmas (never mind being a holiday of little to no importance), Kwanzaa is not a religious celebration, and even Yule never falls on or about Christmas because of the calendar switch a few hundred years ago.

    So then instead of being inclusive, it just makes people look ignorant. "Happy Holidays!" "You know Hannukah has been over for six weeks now, right?" "Oh.."

    Pretty much the Jewish community (the only community particularly invested) had to say thanks, but no thanks. Give us a Menorah for Hannukah where you put your tree for Christmas, and you can have your Christmas season back.

    Happy Holidays... jeez. It's nice they recognize that there is in fact a Jewish community here, and I appreciate they want to do something for us, but keeping Christmas and stop telling your believers that we killed Christ would be slightly more meaningful and inclusive than "Happy Holidays".

    rant over.

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by Robert View Post
    "My fiance would like me to correct myself and tell you that he is not a Christian, but agnostic. I disagree, but it's a nitpicking definition type disagreement, so I'll let him have this one."

    Yes, let him have this one - there are thousands that you won't be letting him have, in the years ahead.
    *snicker*

    I make it a point to let him be right once a month.

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  • Robert
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    "My fiance would like me to correct myself and tell you that he is not a Christian, but agnostic. I disagree, but it's a nitpicking definition type disagreement, so I'll let him have this one."

    Yes, let him have this one - there are thousands that you won't be letting him have, in the years ahead.

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  • Bob Hinton
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    Originally posted by Robert View Post
    I would like to point out that, unlike Bob with his xenophobic peregrinations and his racist overseas charity work, I have never been abroad in my life and am therefore a cosmopolitan internationalist with unimpeachable liberal credentials.
    Oi! That's a bit low. I have nothing against the peregrisn uh pregerss uh perfges oh bugger - well whoever they are!

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  • Bob Hinton
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    Originally posted by Limehouse View Post
    Oh don't be so ridiculous!

    All this 'the PC brigade have banned this and the PC brigade have banned that' stuff is so overblown and most of it is myth.
    Really? That's funny didn't someone point out recently that the attempts to ban Christmas were not the work of immigrants but of PC brigade council officials.

    Interesting brigade this, appears and disappears at will!

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  • Bob Hinton
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    Really?

    Originally posted by caz View Post

    It's all getting a wee bit: "I'm not bigoted, I even talk to the natives/blacks/gays/women." Good for you, Bob. Good for you.

    Caz
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    So let me see if I have this straight. Someone accuse me of being a xenophobe, the definition of which is: A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.

    I point out that I have absolutely no fear or contempt for that which is foreign and back it up with proof that I am in fact widely travelled and have many friends of all nationalities, races and creeds. However I am then accused of being some sort of ‘undercover’ xenophobe who goes around the world travelling and meeting people just so I can secretly hold them in contempt.

    Then you come up with the rather sneering remark posted above, which seems to imply that I really am a bigot, in spite of absolute proof to the contrary!

    So it seems that to smear someone’s reputation all that is necessary is for someone to stick a label on a person and that is that. Rather a bigoted attitude if you don’t mind me saying!

    So in this La La land the only people who aren't bigots are the ones who go around accusing everyone else!

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