Osama Bin Laden DEAD- Killed By U.S. Forces

[Stephen Thomas]

Arms sales make the world go round

The world go round, the world go round

Arms sales make the world go round

All fall down.

[Bob Hinton]

Oh really...

Arms sales make the world go round

The world go round, the world go round

Arms sales make the world go round

All fall down.

I find it rather perverse that the same people who condemn arms sales are usually the same people who condemn Hitler for being a Fascist Monster - and who incidentally was removed not by a piece of paper but by weapons.

The same sort of people led the marches in the 30's against rearmament which meant that when war broke out our troops had to face Hitler’s tanks with nothing more than rifles less powerful than an elephant gun and Messerschmitt 109's with bi-planes! My mother was one of them but after suffering months of daily bombing in Bristol admitted she might have been wrong!

The same attitude has killed scores of our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq by sending them out in lightly armoured Landover’s designed for use in the UK, against bombs that can destroy tanks!

The finest anti bomb vehicles were made by the South Africans and they had them on the shelf over thirty years ago. But we didn’t buy them; no we preferred to let our troops die in vehicles that were designed to protect the inhabitants from people throwing stones.

[Limehouse]

This is getting ridiculous. When Jason prints a copy of the list of companies doing business with Iraq in post 56, which is completely bare of any reference to Guns and tanks, the best Limehouse can come up with in post 57 is a the code ‘K’ which according to Limehouse:

“K = includes 'conventional weapons' which I guess could mean guns”

Which can also include field kitchens and tin boxes!

So in the space of a couple of days Limehouse has gone from assuring the world that Britain sold “tanks and guns” to Iraq to admitting it might have been a primus stove and a ration box! Brilliant! The deductive and reasoning powers of this person are frightening – I can see it now,

“Good Lord Limehouse so Jack the Ripper was a Targon Time Lord from the Zipdadeedooda Nebula. I would never have thought it!”

To which Limehouse’s brilliant reply is:

“Well I guess he could be”

Well done Limehouse – after the death of Sir Henry I needed something to cheer me up!

Bob,

I did not ‘refuse to answer’ , I was simply off line for a few hours. When I did answer, I did not ‘wriggle’ but gave a clear response to your point.

My points concerning ‘chemical weapons’ and ‘conventional weapons’ was a reference to the key supplied by Cappucina from whose post Jason was quoting. According to my research, ‘conventional weapons’ can include small arms and land mines. Nowhere does it mention primus stoves. I supposed if you lobbed a primus stove at someone, it could become a very deadly weapon.

With reference to your most recent post, I am not against spending money arming our troops from arms made in this country. I am against a trade in which arms are traded for profit between nations.

Now please stop bellowing at me. I am not on the parade ground.

[cappuccina]

Bob, is it a simply short-term hormonal imbalance, or are you always like this?

[Bob Hinton]

More Nonsense From The Wafflemeister

Limehouse you said : "And the UK - who sold him guns and tanks." Now I ask once again, are you prepared to back up that statement or not?

Simple question - let's have an answer. Here's a clue The choice is between 'Yes' or 'No'.

[Bob Hinton]

And Again More Bluff & Bluster

Bob, is it a simply short-term hormonal imbalance, or are you always like this?

No whenever some gutless little scumbag accuses me of being a liar without backing it up with proof I always act like this.

I'm glad you posted as you did so everyone can see how you avoid having to apologise when you are wrong!

[cappuccina]

No whenever some gutless little scumbag accuses me of being a liar without backing it up with proof I always act like this.

I'm glad you posted as you did so everyone can see how you avoid having to apologise when you are wrong!

I'm going to choose to excuse this; we'll just say the "plays well with others" box was never checked on your report cards when you were a kid...

I have nothing to be sorry for; I provided data; you don't like it. I am responding logically, you are acting completely emotionally. You know, it's humorous, actually; it's sort of a reverse gender stereotype thingie...You are taking on the more traditionally "feminine" role, I the masculine...

[Limehouse]

Limehouse you said : "And the UK - who sold him guns and tanks." Now I ask once again, are you prepared to back up that statement or not?

Simple question - let's have an answer. Here's a clue The choice is between 'Yes' or 'No'.

Please read post 54.

[Limehouse]

No whenever some gutless little scumbag accuses me of being a liar without backing it up with proof I always act like this.

I'm glad you posted as you did so everyone can see how you avoid having to apologise when you are wrong!

Nobody called you a liar and you have no grounds for calling anyone a scumbag.

[cappuccina]

Thank you Limehouse; you are much more elegant than I am...

I'll just assume the dude's having a bad day and leave it at that...

(Although if he lived here, he would NOT get any of the nice dessert I am making to go with my family's dinner tonight... )

[Bob Hinton]

Still No Answer

Please read post 54.

I've read post 54 nowhere do you back up your statement or admit you were wrong.

Now less of the bluff and bluster and come clean.

[Bob Hinton]

Really?

Nobody called you a liar and you have no grounds for calling anyone a scumbag.

So no-one called me a liar? I suggest you read Caps post 43

Post 43 : you people were saying Britain didn't sell anything....not true, obviously

Here Caps quite clearly states that ‘you people’ which includes me is saying something that is not true. Saying something that is not true is called lying – and the person saying it a liar!

How much clearer do you want it?

I just wish you had the common decency to apologise.

[Bob Hinton]

Wafflemeister at it again!

Thank you Limehouse; you are much more elegant than I am...

I'll just assume the dude's having a bad day and leave it at that...

(Although if he lived here, he would NOT get any of the nice dessert I am making to go with my family's dinner tonight... )

Yes more bluff and bluster, wiffle and waffle but still no apology.

[Errata]

I suppose it would be fatuous of me to suggest that every major country in the world has made some military decisions they desperately regret, or ought to and leave it at that?

[cappuccina]

...very true, Errata...

Given the diffucult task at hand, I would say the US handled this situation pretty well. For example, there were many children (at least 20, apparently) in that compound, NONE of whom were injured, unlike during the Branch Davidian situation.

No one should have been selling arms to Iraq ever, but the US and other countries did, and hopefully we have learned from it.