Females help me out with some advice

[Phil Carter]

Actually Tom, yes it WAS unintentional.. my apologies. (I honestly have never noticed!)

And a name is not what I "smell" with you sir, that I can assure you.

As far as respect is concerned. This is a pub. Cheers!

As far as any lady here is concerned, I offered to buy the drinks. All ladies included....as one does, in the pub.

[Tom_Wescott]

Phil,

While my blood is flowing hot from Babybird, I'll go ahead and ask you. Do you smell my name 'Westcott' out of sheer disrespect, or is it unintentional?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

P.S. Remember that it was Le Grand who tried to throw a policeman under a train!

[Phil Carter]

Tom, I thought that was your mouth, and was trying to cover it.
Tom Westcott? Wind up merchant?.. couldn't wind up a clockwork train at Le Grand central station...

Oh I do like pubs... :-)

[DVV]

Ahh David, mon ami.. this pub... and the ladies are fine, it seems to me. :-)

salut!

Phil

Fine.....and as you very well know, they'll be prettiest after some more glasses !

Cheers !

[Tom_Wescott]

Get your hand off my ass, Phil, I'm a dude.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Phil Carter]

Ahh David, mon ami.. this pub... and the ladies are fine, it seems to me. :-)

salut!

Phil

[DVV]

Phil sits quietly at the bar, watching the tone in the pub... and chuckles to himself. Drink ladies? :-)

Which pub ? How are the ladies ?

[Tom_Wescott]

Gotta love Pub Talk

By the way I have never attacked you. Pointing out something you said to me is not attacking you. If anything, it was you attacking me.

This goes back to my earlier observation regarding people with a victim complex.

Believe me the things he said were not in jest.

Unless you're suggesting that I sincerely expected you to travel to me and serve me tea, how can you suggest I was serious? As far as I can remember, we got along splendidly prior to discussing Fisherman's Hutch article, which is a subject you clearly take far more seriously than myself. You got personal with Fish on that thread, I defended him, and you turned your serpentine tongue on to me, so I nipped it in the bud. End of story. Now, more than a month later, you've chosen to revive that worthless argument you seem to think is a 'debate'. TJI and Natalie, who have both endured far more exchange with me than yourself, have each stated I'm not being sexist, but clearly their opinions mean nothing to you. Moving forward from this point on, the question is, do you want me to be nice and gentlemanly, like our friend Deevs, or do you want me to be the mean, sexist Tom you keep telling me I am? For the second time, I'm putting that ball in your court.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

P.S. Thanks Teej!

[Phil Carter]

Phil sits quietly at the bar, watching the tone in the pub... and chuckles to himself. Drink ladies? :-)

[tji]

Ooops thanks bb

I think you need to edit your comment...it doesn't seem to say what I assume you meant it to say, which is that Tom HASN'T come across as a sexist pig to you?


Yes you are correct I did mean hasn't come across as a sexist pig to me. Sorry.

Tj

[babybird67]

Without taking sides I have to say Tom tends to push the buttons of people who's buttons can be pushed. I get the impression he doesn't mean it, it is a form of teasing. In all my dealings with him he has come across as sexist pig....doesn't mean you can start now though Tom!


Tracy

Tracy

I think you need to edit your comment...it doesn't seem to say what I assume you meant it to say, which is that Tom HASN'T come across as a sexist pig to you?

Sadly he has to me. Believe me the things he said were not in jest. I have a sense of humour. Honest!

Jen x

[babybird67]

I didn't make comments about your age. And when were you and I debating? There's no debate here, there's merely you attacking me until I'm no longer amused and you go bye-bye, birdie. Can't we all just get along?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

What??? So you didn't ask me if I was born in 67 and then say due to my age you would try to be nice to me and then say i was a poor thing? Wow! I must have imagined a whole post by you that time!

We were debating when you told me to run along like a good girl and make you tea, but if you can't remember the jibe you made about my age only moments ago, i think senilty must be setting in earlier than even for me in your case! LOL!

I'm happy to get along Tom. That is why I don't make unwarranted sexist or other personal comments about other posters or try and be patronising by calling them 'good girls' or presume to tell them where their place is. If you seriously cannot see how offensive your comments, which weren't given in jest, have been, I seriously worry about you.

By the way I have never attacked you. Pointing out something you said to me is not attacking you. If anything, it was you attacking me. Anyway we are derailing Jordan's thread. So best to drop it eh? Especially if you can't remember a post you put up only minutes ago!

Jen

[tji]

Without taking sides I have to say Tom tends to push the buttons of people who's buttons can be pushed. I get the impression he doesn't mean it, it is a form of teasing. In all my dealings with him he has come across as sexist pig....doesn't mean you can start now though Tom!


Tracy

[Abby Normal]

Hi Chainz

Definitely do not use the Mom or "other girl ruse" approach. For many reasons.

If you have a hard time asking her out in person(this can definitely be hard and awkward, especially if your shy)-she gave you her email so in your email conversation with her steer her towards what she likes to do and then ask her (in your emal response)if she would like do do something similar. If that something similar involves an environment where you are known, welcome and have friends than all the better. It seems alot of girls like it when they know you are liked by other people (except for the "other girl ruse" previously mentioned) and makes them feel comfortable knowing that you are a "known" quantity.
Or perhaps ask her if she wants to do something that maybe you both have not done but "that its something you always wanted to do". That way you are both in a new adventure together-a little riskier of course but could be fun.

If you get that first date, be a gentleman-open the door for her, pay for everything, be polite to everyone, tip well. And always remember to be yourself. Don't put on an act.

And if the date goes well.... when you drop her off (and of course if she is not giving you major signals) Do not try to kiss her goodnight. Trust me. say good night you had a good time and leave. Then when you get home call her the next day and thank her and see if she would like to do something else-her choice this time.

Good luck-keep us informed.

[Tom_Wescott]

who makes ungentlemanly comments about a woman's age. Especially when done as a debating technique when there is no other way of him winning the debate.

I didn't make comments about your age. And when were you and I debating? There's no debate here, there's merely you attacking me until I'm no longer amused and you go bye-bye, birdie. Can't we all just get along?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott