Sarah Palin is an evil idiot

[Zodiac]

Oh Boy!!!

Heck, you can't get any more far left radical than a 9/11 Truther. Unless you just want to go join Hizbollah.

Roy

Hi Roy,

So let me get this straight. "Hizbollah" (sic.) is, according to you Roy, on the far left of the political spectrum??? WOW!!! It sure is a shame that nobody told them about this!!! "Hezbollah", as they are known in the real world, are an ultra-conservative, Islamofascist movement who are actually so deluded that they honestly believe that "Once upon a time" there was this guy called Abraham who "met" and "had knowledge of and conversation with" some kind of... err... delusion, oh sorry, I mean "Supreme Being" who went by the name of "YAHWEH", or Jehovah, or Allah, or, to his close personal friends "God". They seriously believe that their faith in this "God of Abraham" and his subsequent "Prophets" both guides and justifies their actions!!! Hey, I'll admit that its been awhile since I read up on my Marx and Engels, but I'm pretty damn sure that Hezbollah's brand of "Theistic" Islamofascism is about as far removed from "left wing" as it is possible to get!!! Heck, you can't get any more right wing and conservative than Hezbollah, literally, "The Party of God". Unless you happened to believe in such delusional "God" type nonsence yourselves!!!

The following extract may, or may not, prove instructive, either way, I cannot be held responsible for your ability, or lack thereof, to grasp the historical and polictical realities of the world we live in.

"In fact, the Islamic Republican forces did supervise Hezbollah. Hojjat al-Islam Hadi Ghaffari, "a young protegee of Khomeini," being in charge of them. Hezbollah was instrumental in the Islamic Cultural Revolution against SECULARISTS and MODERNISTS at Iran's universities.
After Friday prayers on 18 April 1980, Khomeini harshly attacked the universities. `We are not afraid of economic sanctions or military intervention. What we are afraid of is Western universities and the training of our youth in the interests of West or East.` His remarks served as a signal for an attack that evening on the Tehran Teachers Training College. One student was reportedly lynched, and according to a British correspondent, the campus was left looking like `a combat zone.` THE NEXT DAY, HEZBOLLAHIS RANSACKED LEFT-WING STUDENT OFFICES AT SHIRAZ UNIVERSITY. SOME 300 STUDENTS REQUIRED HOSPITAL TREATMENT. Attacks on student groups also took place at Mashad and Isfahan Universities"` Attacks continued April 21 and "the next day at the Universities at Ahwaz and Rasht. Over 20 people lost their lives in these university confrontations. ... The universities closed soon after the April confrontation for Islamization`. They were not to open for another two years."

Link to the full article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_of_Iran

Best wishes,
Zodiac.

[Roy Corduroy]

Errata, that's an impressive, far reaching post you made. But it's irrelevant now, because Ally said:

No it's not all about the Arizona shooting.

Have a nice evening,

Roy

[Errata]

first of all, left and right no longer apply in their currently used form, so we may as well abandon the terms.

secondly,was Sarah Palin's use of the phrase "Blood Libel" technically OED correct? Yes. But as someone who deals with the public, a person has to be aware that certain words or phrases have certain connotations, meanings, or unpleasant histories that you have to respect. 50% of people who use the word "retarded" as a pejorative term use it correctly. They use it to mean slow, or developmentally delayed. That certainly didn't prevent Sarah Palin from blasting people (rightfully so) for using the word. No one uses Negro, or the bastardization of the French Negre (******) as a legitimate term to describe black people, despite the fact that both words simply mean "black". People respect the history, and don't use those words.

Is "Blood Libel" a phenomenon limited to Jews? No. Did Jews suffer far and away the most from it? I could argue yes. Did the phrase itself originate from persecution of Jews? Yes. It did. This specific phrase to describe this phenomenon is not used in any other context. I'm not even sure how one can become aware of the phrase without also knowing the history of the phrase. And to choose to use it anyway is grossly insensitive. Not just to American Jews, but to the Jews around the world who are still being evicted and killed because of this stupid piece of malicious gossip. It still happens. And this is far from the only time that neo-conservatives have done this to their own Jewish population.

But you know what? The plight of the Republican Conservatives in America is not comparable to the plight of the Jews throughout history. First of all, the right wing is not Jewish. I mean they just aren't. Very few Jews are even republican. much less right wing. Glen Beck and O'reilly are wrong. Obama is not a Nazi. Firstly, for the obvious reason that they wouldn't have him on a bet, and secondly he never joined the party. Even if you truly believed that he was a socialist (and you would be wrong) that STILL wouldn't make him a Nazi, since despite the name, Nazis werent really socialist as much as isolationist.

Sarah Palin is NOT a victim of Blood Libel. You know how you know? She hasn't been burned out of her home. She hasn't seen her family brutally murdered before being burned at the stake. Neither Alaska not the US has confiscated all of her property before throwing her out with nothing. Hundreds of thousands of conservatives have not gone missing with suspicious ditches appearing in the woods, and 10 million of them havent gone into oven and gas chambers.

I get that they feel persecuted, and I get that they feel abandoned and irrelevant. And I get that she feels unjustly accused in influencing a clearly desperately unstable man.

It's funny. Loughner shot Rep. Giffords because she didn't answer his question "What is government if words have no meaning?" And I know what he meant and why she didn't answer. It was a crazy question from an unhinged guy.

But maybe we should ask it again. What is government if words have no meaning? What is Sarah Palin if "Blood Libel" is just a literal definition to her? What does it mean if Glen Beck either really believes that the President is the equivalent of Hitler, or is willing to use one of the most appalling chapters in human history for political gain? What kind of society are we when hanging a woman in effigy is a cheap laugh? None of these things made Jared Loughner a killer. At most it helped him choose a target. But if we can't manage to be a little more respectful of others in our political discourse, then it's kind of hard to argue that Loughner was wrong. It just seems ironic that he shot the one politician everyone agreed was a genuinely caring person.

[Ally]

No it's not all about the Arizona shooting. It's about the fact that Palin is a moronic, vapid, grasping, greedy dipshit with a legion of mentally defective rabid supporters who follow her for the same reason they watch the kardishians. Because they are too stupid to differentiate between reality and reality tv.

[Roy Corduroy]

Her use of Blood libel in reference to a shooting of a jewish congresswoman demonstrates she is an idiot even uncapable of a wiki search.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

Her defense of it makes her a reprehensible jackass, no if ands or Sarahs.

Oh so this is all about the Arizona shooting then. I thought so. In that case, Sarah Palin is correct using the term blood libel to defend herself. Because she and her political party are being libelled with the blood of others.

The truth is, the Tuscon shooter is a pot smoking, George W Bush hating atheist. Sound like a tea party? I don't think so. He's a 9/11 Truther. Heck, you can't get any more far left radical than a 9/11 Truther. Unless you just want to go join Hizbollah.

Roy

[protohistorian]

I do not have an opinion really Stan. I remember in psychology they mentioned the concept as being tied to a paradox, and that it originated out of a 19th century desire to explain observed complexity. That is the extent of my grasp I am afraid. Dave

[sdreid]

The self aware universe of the future out of chaos yes

[protohistorian]

That self awareness can be stochastic in origin?

[sdreid]

To start something interesting, what do you think of the Boltzmann Brain Theory?

[protohistorian]

Her use of Blood libel in reference to a shooting of a jewish congresswoman demonstrates she is an idiot even uncapable of a wiki search.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

Her defense of it makes her a reprehensible jackass, no if ands or Sarahs.

[Ally]

You claimed the anti Palin stuff was as a result of her(and her supporters) rhetoric.
I simply gave a few examples of anti-Palin hatred that have been around since she became national news.

Her rhetoric has been around since she became national news also. Do you really think the anti-palin stuff sprung up fully formed without any influence by her actions whatsoever? Oh no, everyone just decided they hated her for absolutely no reason, whatsoever, she's an innocent little lamb just ripped apart by slavering wolves. Please.

She's a vapid, grasping, selfish, moron. And people are responding to what she puts out there.

The broadest of broad strokes are painted by yourself(and others) on here - "hillbillies" "hero" "screaming" and "Tea-bagger" being used "liberally".

And? I am arguing based on what people have actually claimed and what they have said. You are not. You are holding up pictures of Palin being hanged in effigy as if it has something to do with anything on this thread. It does not. Although it does give me a fabulous idea for a Halloween display next year.

But that kind of tactic is typical of Palinites. Don't argue the facts. Put up rhetorical pictures and nonsense and distract from the actual facts.

Even the very first sentence on this thread was "The woman is crazy and stupid, but she is maliciously evil as well".

I'd agree with that. Crazy and stupid is self-evident but what else but evil can you call someone who violates the trust of thousands to pursue their own selfish, monetary interests.

She was an elected public official. People spent their time, effort and money helping her get into office. She made a promise to the people she swore to represent. And when it was no longer fun, when she had a better opportunity to whore herself as a celebretart on reality tv, she quit. That's selfish to the point of being evil. When you make and break promises of that magnitude, what do you call it? No one forced her to run. Basic decency and honor required that she fulfill her term as governor.

[jason_c]

Thanks for praying health care reform goes through. It needs to happen.




I am sorry, someone on this thread hung up the effigy? Someone on this thread commented on Trig's real mother? Or are you one of those blind haters who lumps everyone together in one great big ball of Palin haters and blames people for what they havent' said or done.

I despise Palin based on her words and her actions and her well-documented stupidity. However, you seem to be using us to condemn what others have said or done about her, which considering who you consider to be your hero, is about what is ex scre\pected. Let's all tar everyone with broad strokes and not look at individual issues and actions. You are going to start screaming about liberals in a minute, aint you?

You claimed the anti Palin stuff was as a result of her(and her supporters) rhetoric. I simply gave a few examples of anti-Palin hatred that have been around since she became national news.

The broadest of broad strokes are painted by yourself(and others) on here - "hillbillies" "hero" "screaming" and "Tea-bagger" being used "liberally". Even the very first sentence on this thread was "The woman is crazy and stupid, but she is maliciously evil as well".

My hero? No.

I do have sympathy for her however. Not many politicians have had such a hard press as her(some deserved, some not).

[sdreid]

It was actually of a more personal nature than that so we can wait for the answer.

[Ally]

Hi Ally:

I said a prayer for you regarding your health issue.

Thanks for praying health care reform goes through. It needs to happen.

The Sarah Palin effigy was hung up over two years ago, its not a recent phenomona. As is some commentators obsession over Trig Palin's real mother. Both are examples of Palin hate not long after she entered national politics. You accuse others of having an emotional age of two, yet your arguement consists if justifying Palin hate by saying "you started it".

I am sorry, someone on this thread hung up the effigy? Someone on this thread commented on Trig's real mother? Or are you one of those blind haters who lumps everyone together in one great big ball of Palin haters and blames people for what they havent' said or done.

I despise Palin based on her words and her actions and her well-documented stupidity. However, you seem to be using us to condemn what others have said or done about her, which considering who you consider to be your hero, is about what is expected. Let's all tar everyone with broad strokes and not look at individual issues and actions. You are going to start screaming about liberals in a minute, aint you?

[jason_c]

The posters on here aren't trying to get elected to anything or get million dollar sponsorship deals. Her politics however are venomous, divisive and worst of all completely hypocritical.

And she's a moron. I just find it amusing that hillbillies like Stan there who had no problem smearing and saying all sorts of crap about the liberals and Obama when he was swearing they were going to win are now crying because their little hero is getting the exact same treatment.

Right wing nuts are so sensitive. Waaaaaaaaah.

"Wah you guys are so mean and hate filled to Sarah! Meanies! " And you guys want to be in charge of a country? I think you have to be over the emotional age of two before you get the keys to the launch codes.

The Russkies would call you all suck faces and you'd cry and blow up the world.

The Sarah Palin effigy was hung up over two years ago, its not a recent phenomona. As is some commentators obsession over Trig Palin's real mother. Both are examples of Palin hate not long after she entered national politics. You accuse others of having an emotional age of two, yet your arguement consists if justifying Palin hate by saying "you started it".

http://http://sarapalinuncovered.blogspot.com/2008/09/controversy-over-baby-trig.html