Cricket, lovely cricket

[Adam Went]

Martin:

I got brought up with John Howard and the Liberals in power and so I am a liberal through and through, but the government and particularly the local governments in Queensland have done a fantastic job. Hopefully the worst has passed for a while and as a country we will continue to do what we can to help them out.

Aussie whinging goes back even further,to the 30's when they actually complained to the British Government,just because we bowled a few bouncers.

Under-exaggeration much? Your bowlers damn near killed some of our batsman, particularly Bill Woodfull! Shameful act.

As for the fool Gilchrist,how sporting.What a nice chap.
Except everybody else noticed he only ever walked when you had scored millions,he didnt do it very often when you were 60 odd for 5 did he?

Well he didn't need to because we were never 5 for 60 odd during Gilly's career....

Its this self delusion that makes everybody else think you are a bunch of hypocritical.utterly self absorbed arseholes.

Nice grammar. Really must be catching. I sense frustrating with your insipid team creeping through....

Monty:

Ah, right then, so as a keeper, you would also be disgusted at Matt Prior's act, wouldn't you?

Don't know what makes you think standing 30 yards back would scare me (unless you're terrified of the ramp shot - probably, eh?) - at 6'4 tall, most bowlers "bouncers" are waist high pies that will promptly get despatched through or over square leg. As you shall see in time.

Cheers,
Adam.

[Nothing to see]

Hi all
Thanks for posting that NTS, I was watching that live on the tv and I was as confused as Gatt, gobsmacker of a ball,poor old Gatt,it was that ball that started his comfort eating you know.
Warne also bowled Goochie out,I'm sure in the same series, that was just as good,only they dont show that one as much.
Warney in his pomp versus Beefy in the mood, I give my left knacker to see that.
Are you p'd off by Warneys' off field activities? go a bit easier on him,you should read Kieth Millers biograpy,compared to him Warney is a monk.
All the best.

Probably I dislike the fact that he and the ex-missus keep shoving themselves in front of cameras and onto magazine covers to make even more money. I mean, he may have the wickedest leg break in history but I think too much of the blonde dye has seeped into his brain. And yeah,I wouldn't be surprised that Keith was a goer but then he'd also flown Spitfires was it? in WW2 . Don't blame him for liking women. But he knew how to be discreet. And there's the difference.

[martin wilson]

Hi all
Adam
Was Bill the chap they took a photograph of? I know one appeared in a newspaper of an Aussie batsman covered in ball shaped bruises all down his left side,and I know Larwood fractured your wicketkeepers' skull,so yeah maybe we were a bit over the top.
Fast forward to the 80's, Holding hit Brian Close with a couple, "disgraceful" thundered our newspapers.
I never said we are not hypocritical as well.
I was just trying my luck with Ghilcrist, I have no idea whether he walked at 60 odd for 5 or not.
I know Richie Benaud didnt like it though and thats good enough for me.

NTS
Keith did fly spitfires, like a lot of blokes who served in WW2 it influenced his attitude as it was said he never saw cricket as anything but a game,not a matter of life and death.
I was lucky enough to know a couple of blokes who fought in the war when I started work back in 1978 as a callow 16 year old and they were lovely guys, never took anything too seriously,and great company.
Over here the celeb market is a big industry,there is always some premiership footballer flogging exclusive rights to his wedding to Hello or Ok magazine,and picture spreads of their house and anything else they can think of.
Of course when a paper runs a story about their extra marital affairs or getting drunk they moan their heads off about press intrusion.
All the best.

[Nothing to see]

If all Warnie did was complain about the press I could deal.

He chases after them.

When he blamed his mother for the medication he took that was it for me.

He needed to man up.

But no. My Mum gave them to me. This is a man in his 30's.

He could tweak that ball but....

[Steven Russell]

Keith Miller - now there was a man. I think it was Mosquitos he flew in the war. The story goes that once when someone was saying a particular player was under a lot of pressure, he replied that when you've got two Messerschmitts up your arse: now that's pressure.

My other favourite Miller story is that when he was captain of his state side (NSW?) they took the field with twelve men, Miller having forgotten to nominate a twelfth man. When this was pointed out, he is supposed to have said, "All right. One of you guys f*ck off; the rest, spread out". I hope it's true. They say he never forgot that cricket was a game and better judges than me have called him the best captain Australia never had.

Adam: like underarm (underhand?) bowling, fast leg theory was well within the laws of cricket at the time. We won that series 4-1 by the way. Am I right in saying that our latest superb ashes victory is the most comprehensive by us down under since then?

Best wishes,
Steve.

[Steven Russell]

I've just checked and it isn't. We won 3-1 in '54-5 with Tyson wrecking the Aussies and 5-1 in '78-9. In this last case though, many Packer rebels were missing from the sides which devalued the series somewhat.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[Monty]

I won't have the greatest bowler of all time blamed for something that wasn't his fault.

Oldfield was through the shot before the ball had arrived, he got hit on his right temple. That wasn't Lols fault. Oldfield himself said so out on the field.

Poor technique, he shoulda ducked.

Monty

[Steven Russell]

News just in. Three Pakistani cricketers have been banned by ICC for five years. See beginning of thread.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[Adam Went]

Martin:

I think Bill Woodfull was the one that got hit in the heart?

Didn't know that about Brian Close but then wasn't he still playing at quite an old age? Probably didn't have the reflexes to keep up with Holding anymore.

As Steven said, Keith Miller once said "Pressure isn't cricket. Pressure is a messerschmitt up your arse."

Steven:

Get back to me when you've won an Ashes series 5-0, m'kay?

Monty:

I could name a bunch of fast bowlers who were better off the top of my head:
Glenn McGrath, Dennis Lillee, Joel Garner, Malcolm Marshall (infact let's just say any of the Wendies fast bowlers from the late 70's - early 90's) Allan Donald, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, John Snow, Alan Davison, Shaun Pollock, M.J. Druitt.

Back in yer box.

Cheers,
Adam.

[martin wilson]

Hi all
My favourite Miller story was the threesome he had with a Duchess and her 16 year old daughter while on tour over here, strewth cobber!
Monty was right on Larwood,I forgot to mention for winding up reasons that he wasnt bowling leg theory at the time. I will mention that in the documentary about bodyline years ago, one of the team (Pelham Warner?) who was still around said the Aussies played leg theory like a bunch of prats.
I just closed off when I heard about the spot fixing.
It was obvious they were bang to rights,and I just wanted them gone, the whole squad,I was utterly sickened by it.
I wasnt too impressed by our authorities, I felt they wanted the tour to continue for financial reasons.
I heard there was some stuff going on in the one dayers but I had lost all interest by then.
Funny though,if I didnt know it before,it made me realise how much I love cricket.
All the best.

[Monty]

As you have proven your knowledge of cricket is less than my next door neighbours 10 year old hound during the series, forgive me for saying your opinion holds no value.

And you come back to us when you win the Ashes full stop. Judging your test performances in the last 2 Ashes tours, you lot are gonna forget what they look like.

Now run on Sonny, yer Mums calling you in for yer tea.

Monty

[Adam Went]

Monty:

As you have proven your knowledge of cricket is less than my next door neighbours 10 year old hound during the series, forgive me for saying your opinion holds no value.

Now Monty, that's no way to speak to Martin! What's he ever done to you?

I don't think 11 AM is quite time for tea but I trust you'll all be sitting up to watch one final punishment to your woeful teams abysmal performance in this series?

Cheers,
Adam.

[Monty]

Adam,

Duh, Martins knowledge far outweighs yours.

Any fool could see I was talking to you. Well, when I say any fool....

You still think the ODIs are far more important than Tests? Thats like preferring a MacDonalds Happy Meal over a fine Steak dinner. Its the toys aint it? You like playing with the Disney toys, Goofy is yer favourite no?

Monty

[martin wilson]

Hi all
Adam,you know nothing,and you had to revise to know that much.
Anyway,yeah, I think Closey was 40+ when he played against the Windies,he had a reputation as a hard man so tried to tough it out and took a couple on his chest, probably not a good idea.
Larwood was so quick I read he knocked Woodfulls bat out of his hands,you ever see a fast bowler do that?
"Oh,by the way,whens your Don coming in ?" Good old Bowesy.
Richie said 'Typhoon' Tyson was the fastest bowler he ever faced,we have had some good 'uns!
Maybe Terry Aldeman should be added to your list,he was a right pain in the derrier over here.Someone wrote 'Gooch Out!' (our skipper) on a wall and some wag added lbw b Aldeman O.
I always liked Merv The Swerve as well,a man with more moustache than you might reasonably expect to fiind on a human beings face. I always thought he ran in hard and gave it everything (another one who bowled through injury I think)
Anyway all the best.

[Adam Went]

Monty:

See the thing is that throughout this series you've been telling me to stop living in the past, and yet that is exactly what you are doing! The Test series was ages ago.....the ODI series is happening NOW. Get with the times, old bean!

I'm not necessarily a big fan of the Happy Meal, though I am told that you won't take any burger unless it's got more than 20,000 calories in it. Understandable. It wouldn't be so much a dive across to catch the ball when you're keeping, but a waddle/belly flop, wouldn't it? Haha...Bell for a Belly flop....god i'm good.

Martin:

Alderman was a good bowler when the ball was swinging around, hence why he was good in Pommy conditions, but on flat tracks, a bit more suspect. Had a bloody fantastic hairdo though.

Jeff Thomson played his first test with a broken foot.
Phil Emery played his only test with a broken hand.

That's tough. Not like these pansies you've got these days - "Ooh, ooh, I rolled my ankle - get me out of here!"

Cheers,
Adam.