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Leslie Van Houten should be released on parole
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I wouldn't be allowed to attend her parole hearing, contrary to Mrs Tate.
Although I must admit I would be quite useless...
Frankly, Magpie, isn't 40 years enough ?
She was 19. She's 61.
Amitiés,
David
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[I remember something about lobbying, on which we agreed last night...
We agreed it was a factor.
We disagreed on whether or not it was a good thing.
And to be honest DVV, you only seem to find lobbying a problem when it's against Leslie. People lobbying for her release seem to be a-okay by you.
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Good night all.
And try to show a little love to a true repentant sinner.
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Have you met this woman?
And I can tell you I wouldn't want her anywhere near me.
I also find it interesting that you have ignored my points about her prior history of violence before she met Manson
Amitiés,
David
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Originally posted by DVV View PostOh, please, Belinda... This is the weakest argument I've ever heard.
Btw, she was free during some months, around 1978.
I will even be happy to have her live next door, and if I support her parole, it's because I've seen goodness, repentance, and intelligence in her.
Amitiés,
David
And I can tell you I wouldn't want her anywhere near me. I also find it interesting that you have ignored my points about her prior history of violence before she met Manson
I am aware she conned her way out of gaol for a brief period but she was sent back.
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Originally posted by belinda View PostWould you be willing to have van Houten live next door to you if she were free?
Btw, she was free during some months, around 1978.
I will even be happy to have her live next door, and if I support her parole, it's because I've seen goodness, repentance, and intelligence in her.
Amitiés,
David
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Would you be willing to have van Houten live next door to you if she were free?
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Originally posted by Magpie View PostExactly. Even Leslie said that when Charlie started up with the "Helter Skelter" schtick, large numbers of "followers" simply rolled their eyes and moved on outta Spahn.
I just express my wish to free her, after 40 years.
Already quite a punishment, don't you think ?
She was 19.
She's 61.
My God told me : "Il y a plus de place au Royaume de mon Père pour un pécheur repenti que pour 100 justes."
Amitiés,
David
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And when those others are on the parole board, their views might mean something.
Why aren't you defending Krenwinkel?
Defending a murderer is something new to me, you know...
Don't go too fast...
Amitiés,
David
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Originally posted by Ally View Post
Far more people left that compound than stayed. He exerted influence only on those who CHOSE to grant him that influence.
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Originally posted by Magpie View PostAnd that's awesome, David. Nothing wrong with that point of view and I'll defend to the death (well, to moderate personal inconvenience) your right to hold and express that opinion. However wrong you may be.
I know you think I'm wrong, and you certainly guess I'm sure I'm right.
Amitiés,
David
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]Many others have a different view.
Not exactly. Van Houten held down Mrs LaBianca while Krenwinkel stabbed her.
Then Tex stabbed her too.
And then he told Leslie : "Do something!"
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And no, the tag "mass murderer" doesn't really fit.
She is implicated in a very strange murder case which is definitely hard to classify.
For what she did, she can hardly be considered a mass murderer.
From a dictionary:
"Van Houten (Leslie): American mass murderer who stabbed one person in 1969."
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Originally posted by DVV View PostWhat I feel is that she's remorseful, genuinely, and that after 40 years, she should be released.
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