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Kind regards, Sam Flynn
"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostIn similar vein, Joseph Smith's Book of Mormon has to have been one of the most influential hoaxes in comparatively recent history.
Or am I missing something? Was there something found showing smith knew he faked his experiences?"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View PostWell I don’t put Mormons anywhere near the Scientology nonsense.
Was there something found showing smith knew he faked his experiences?Last edited by Sam Flynn; 01-22-2018, 03:35 PM.Kind regards, Sam Flynn
"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostThe Jewish God gets my vote, mainly because he was invented several centuries before the other two. I'm 100% atheist, by the way, but I acknowledge the relative antiquity of the three Abrahamic religions. Yahweh was there first, by a loooooooooooong way
To choose the Jews.
But not so odd
As those who choose
A Jewish God
Yet spurn the Jews.
GrahamWe are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostNeither do I, but this is about "great hoaxes", not "greatest bull$hit hoaxes" specifcally. The Book of Mormon has had a huge impact, and has exerted its influence for a much longer time than Scientology, and has a wider reach worldwide. The Mormon Church is certainly bigger than the Church of Scientology so - yes - I'd say that the Book of Mormon has been a greater, more "successful" hoax than anything L Ron Hubbard cooked up.
Smith must have known that the book was a load of tripe, and all that guff about magic translation-stones, golden plates (etc) must surely have been deliberate, snake-oil-salesman nonsense. Besides, Smith wasn't exactly averse to commiting fraud and other breaches of the law, as his biography shows."Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View PostTo be honest I’ve just read an short account of Joseph Smith’s life to refresh my memory. I don’t know if Hubbard could have made this stuff up!"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Originally posted by DirectorDave View PostYes I'm a Scotsman who loves a bit of cricket....I think that makes me even more of a weirdo than being a Ripperologist!Last edited by ChrisGeorge; 01-23-2018, 05:29 AM.Christopher T. George
Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/
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Originally posted by Svensson View PostThe hoax that made the most waves at the time was the Hitler Diaries in 1982. At least, this is a diary that was definitely disproven.
Happy 25th Birthday, Maybrick Hoax!
Last edited by ChrisGeorge; 01-23-2018, 05:30 AM.Christopher T. George
Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/
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Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View PostAlthough I boast no special prowess as a cricket player, I once played for the MCC. No, not that club... it was the Maryland Cricket Club. And when I went in to bat, I got bowled out on the first ball! To make it even worse, I was bowled out for a duck by an Irishman!Regards
Sir Herlock Sholmes.
“A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”
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Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View PostThen there was that hoax of ten years later -- the Maybrick Diary, the alleged Ripper "diary" of Liverpool cotton merchant James Maybrick.
Happy 25th Birthday, Maybrick Hoax!
Cheers
ChrisLast edited by ChrisGeorge; 01-23-2018, 11:07 AM.Christopher T. George
Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/
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Originally posted by DirectorDave View PostYes I'm a Scotsman who loves a bit of cricket....I think that makes me even more of a weirdo than being a Ripperologist!
Steadmund Brand--- GO BRISBANE LIONS!!"The truth is what is, and what should be is a fantasy. A terrible, terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago."- Lenny Bruce
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