Cindy James?

[GUT]

No wait.. I'm crap at math, idk why I even try. 18 years her senior was closer to right. hehe. If he was 40 and she was 19, that's 21 years difference. Her body was found on his birthday, just for trivia.

Notes from Roy's genealogy page, with bolded interesting bits:

1966
December 9, 1966
Age 40

Married Cindy Hack
New Westminster, BC, Canada

SECOND MARRIAGE FOR ROY : No children , by agreement .
Happily married until Cindy's Multiple Personality manifested in 1981 ,
Separated by mutual agreement in July , 1982 . Divorced in 1986 .
Cindy deceased in May , 1989 ; gave rise to the longest and most
expensive Coroner's Court Inquiry ( for 3 months ) ever in B.C. history
in 1990 . Verdict indeterminate for Accident , Suicide , or Murder ;
the conclusion of an excruciating 8-year human tragedy -----
predominantly due to mismanagement by the " Establishment " , both
Legal and Psychiatric , as well as by vocational colleagues and her
family-of-origin . ( Roy legally excluded from contact since 1985 ) .

But why would we believe anything from Roy's site?

I've been tring to find anything about the actual inquest it would be interesting to read what they actually found.

[GUT]

I really can't see suicide as an option.

I think either

1. Murder

2. Accident related to possible Munchhausen's

[Ausgirl]

But why would we believe anything from Roy's site?

I've been tring to find anything about the actual inquest it would be interesting to read what they actually found.

Bold bit: Well, really I don't. But I do find it interesting, what's actually been said there.

Looks like Tyhurst and Makepeace definitely would have known each other - both were faculty at UBC:

http://digitalcollections.library.ubc.ca/cdm/search/collection/arphotos/searchterm/Faculty%20-%20Pharmacology%20and%20Therapeutics/mode/exact/order/date

Still looking for the source for the 'weekend at the island' story, though.
Why -- is because it would change things very significantly indeed, for the way I'd be looking at this case.

No sign of any autopsy report, inquest docs, though I did find a site (and accidentally closed it! d'oh) quoting actual levels of drugs in her system -- a certainly fatal dose of morphine PLUS an incredibly large (from memory, the equivalent of 80 lower dose pills, or 30? higher dosed ones? don't quote me on that..) flurazepam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flurazepam

Basically, enough to kill a horse. I take ONE 10mg morphine pill for pain, now and then, and I am out like a light in about ten minutes. Morphine makes doing anything but lying down extremely unappealing.

So directly after doing a spot of shopping to prepare for the guests she'd invited to dinner that night, she abandoned her vehicle at the shopping center and then walked over a mile, says the suicide theory, from her car to an abandoned house, while bleeding (blood on car door - where was the corresponding wound on her? it's never mentioned..), possibly in bare feet (there's no shoes on her, no mention of where those got to), before taking her pants off, tying a stocking around her throat tightly enough for the coroner to call it 'strangling' and tying herself up in a short hogtie at her back, after ingesting a crap-ton of drugs - the containers for which are never found.

[Ausgirl]

And, as a prequel to the above scenario:

A 19 year old woman marries a man twice her age (who has divorced his last wife that very same year, leaving her with their two kids) and. despite a career focussed on caring for children, this teenager 'mutually' agrees to never have any of her own. Fifteen years later, in 1981, she out of the blue, suddenly develops a serious but clearly hitherto un-manifested case of Multiple Personality Disorder (since her eminent psychiatrist hubby has not picked up on it at all, during those 15 years) and promptly leaves her husband.

She seems happy enough for three months, but then for some reason decides to embark on seven-year campaign of self-abuse, arson and lies, which has her institutionalised twice, and nearly kills her a couple of times, while somehow convincing several other people to lie about taking strange calls (including policemen she wasn't actually sleeping with), or hey, even talking someone into making some calls, sending weird death threats, murdering neighbourhood cats, and loitering oddly around the house.

...

[Harry D]

Thanks for all your research, Ausgirl!

I agree that if Cindy had become so disillusioned with the police, she might have orchestrated some of the incidents, like the fire, to get their attention. Just because she was dishonest about one thing, doesn't mean it was all in her head.

And if the person behind her harassment did have ties to law enforcement, there's a good chance they'd know when surveillance was watching her and lay off for awhile.

GUT, when you speculated it was an accident through Munchausen's, do you mean that Cindy was inflicting this on herself for sympathy and accidentally OD'ed? Or do you mean that someone might have been deliberately tormenting Cindy to ruin her life, stop her moving on etc., and finally went too far? I'm guessing the former. I'm not sure how realistic the latter is.

[Ausgirl]

Posting this half asleep, forgive any idiot-bits.

1981... is the year Ruth Finley's elaborate and violent stalking was revealed as an act of self-harm -- by a woman who I am quite certain actually *had* MPD (or DID, or whatever the latest acronym may be, who can keep up). Ruth, as it turns out, had the classic history of early, sustained abuse that is typical of MPD cases.

1981 is the year Cindy left her husband, the psychiatrist. 1981 is when the stalking started. 1981, says a web page dedicated to Roy Makepeace, is ALSO the year Makepeace decided that his recently-ex wife had MPD.

Now, MPD/DID is a pet research subject of mine. It is (despite the prevalence of people claiming to have it on the internet these days...) an extremely rare condition. And I know for an absolute fact that DID can go 'dormant' for many years and suddenly flare again, usually due to stressful memory-related trigger events - a birthday, a sound, a smell, anything could set it off.

Self-stalking is also very rare, but there are several documented cases, some with evidence of extreme self-harm.

What are the odds of any ONE person having either of these conditions, let alone both, I wonder, let alone discovered in the same country, in the same year?

Incredible, I think, is exactly the right word for it. or..VERY SUSPICIOUS. w/e

Omg, now must sleep.