Bible John (General Discussion)

[Herlock Sholmes]

Did any witnesses who saw the man with Jemima McDonald, the second victim, mention such a tie?

It’s a part read by an actor describing the police report and it says that the man was ‘not further described.’

[Herlock Sholmes]

Yes, IIRC that was after BJ had agreed to pay for the taxi when they were leaving the Barrowlands.

I wonder if this is what lead to the altercation which Hannah said he saw.

It's quite a long way from the Barrowlands to Kelso St then back to Earl St, so the fare is a not inconsiderable one and I imagine Helen would be miffed if she thought she was onto a freebie but had to stump up.

It’s why Jean ended up trying to buy cigarettes in the Barrowland. George Puttock had given her the taxi money so that Helen wouldn’t spend it resulting in them having to walk home and when Helen told Jean that they didn’t need to pay for a taxi because John was picking up the bill Jean decided to spend the money on a packet of cigarettes (which didn’t work out of course)

[Ms Diddles]

Another interesting point is that it looks like BJ had to get the money for the taxi from Helen. Hannah said that he saw her look into her bag and give the guy some money which he handed over to him as payment - £1 6d.

Yes, IIRC that was after BJ had agreed to pay for the taxi when they were leaving the Barrowlands.

I wonder if this is what lead to the altercation which Hannah said he saw.

It's quite a long way from the Barrowlands to Kelso St then back to Earl St, so the fare is a not inconsiderable one and I imagine Helen would be miffed if she thought she was onto a freebie but had to stump up.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Another interesting point is that it looks like BJ had to get the money for the taxi from Helen. Hannah said that he saw her look into her bag and give the guy some money which he handed over to him as payment - £1 6d.

[cobalt]

The taxi route looks like driver error to me, which he managed to rectify at the next available turning. Driving at night means you can't pick out landmarks so easily and Helen herself might not have noticed the error straight away. As for Helen exiting 100 yards from her home, we can but guess. I know passengers sometimes become anxious when they see the meter ticking over and ask to be dropped off a little early to save money. Maybe BJ, who comes across as a bit tight fisted, was moaning about the fare and Helen decided to get out early.

The regimental tie is an interesting detail: we would really need to know from McInnes' associates if that was a feature of his being dressed up for a night out. Was McInnes actually seen wearing it in the late 1960s, almost a decade after he had left the Scots Guards? There was no great cachet in wearing military insignia at that time, in fact popular culture often satirised the concept of military service. A regimental tie seems an odd choice for a night out at the Barrowland, although it's possible McInnes had attended the furniture show earlier in the day. Did any witnesses who saw the man with Jemima McDonald, the second victim, mention such a tie?