zodiac

[tanta07]

Not to detour the thread, but does anyone else feel there might be a possibility that the Zodiac was a "fan" of Jack the Ripper? Particularly with the sending of taunting letters to the police and press? I remember someone had speculated (I forget who) that if the Zodiac had frequented the Riverside Community College library where Cheri Jo Bates was murdered, a search of the library's records for anyone who frequently checked out books on the Ripper might find a strong Zodiac suspect.

And yes, I also feel that the Ripper likely never actually sent any taunting letters, but I don't believe that was the widely-held view in the 1960s when the Zodiac would have been reading up on it.

[Abby Normal]

Hi Abby, Yeah he certainly was a nasty piece of work, a veritable killing machine.

Re the McDuff angle, I've done some digging without finding anything clear cut, although it seems that there is a DNA angle to this particular titbit.
There was some DNA recovered from the Zodiac case, although it is not 100% certain that the sample came from Zodiac himself.

I wonder if they've compared the sample with McDuff's and found some similarities?
Possibly relating to a relative perhaps???

hi barn
who knows? yes from what i understand this latest suspect,whoever it is, its based on DNA. however,im not that confident the DNA evidence in this case is strong enough to catch anyone. as you said it might not even be his, and apparently they dont even have that good a sample-so early in the science and or only partial.
we shall see, but apparently not this mcduff guy or his accomplice.

I still think its probably ALA.

[Observer]

Hi Observer, I've done a bit more digging, and I don't think that the suspect is Kenneth Allen McDuff.
He was mentioned in a thread on a Zodiac website, but it seems that a poster on one of the Zodiac websites has identified a suspect by narrowing down people who lived near a phonebooth used by the Zodiac.

This is all very frustrating, and my head's beginning to hurt.

I'm off to prepare for some more hurt at Wembley tomorrow.

Hi BFW

Yes, it's a tad confusing. I'm a member of one of the Zodiac Forums, and there's nothing new breaking on that particular one. Watch this space, is all I can say on the matter.

Regarding Wembley, you never know, England are no great shakes. That France, Germany game the other night was on another level compared to anything I've seen so far, Italy look decent.

[barnflatwyngarde]

Although after having another look at the situation it seems Green, Mc Duffs accomplice spent 13 years in prison after the 1966 triple killings, ruling him out of the Zodiac crimes also. It's a strange one, I can't see why McDuff was considered a suspect in the first place.

Hi Observer, I've done a bit more digging, and I don't think that the suspect is Kenneth Allen McDuff.
He was mentioned in a thread on a Zodiac website, but it seems that a poster on one of the Zodiac websites has identified a suspect by narrowing down people who lived near a phonebooth used by the Zodiac.

This is all very frustrating, and my head's beginning to hurt.

I'm off to prepare for some more hurt at Wembley tomorrow.

[Observer]

Although after having another look at the situation it seems Green, Mc Duffs accomplice spent 13 years in prison after the 1966 triple killings, ruling him out of the Zodiac crimes also. It's a strange one, I can't see why McDuff was considered a suspect in the first place.

[Observer]

It makes you wonder who suspected him in the first place. Whoever it was, they surely didn't check his whereabouts during the time Zodiac was slaying his victims. I wonder if McDuffs accomplice has a place in the mix?

[barnflatwyngarde]

wow never even heard of this guy before. hes obviously not the zodiac though.
released after killing three people he went on to murder six more. the reason I strongly favor the death penalty and never releasing/paroling convicted murderers. let em rot in jail or better yet-exterminate them so they can never harm someone again or be a burden on society.

Hi Abby, Yeah he certainly was a nasty piece of work, a veritable killing machine.

Re the McDuff angle, I've done some digging without finding anything clear cut, although it seems that there is a DNA angle to this particular titbit.
There was some DNA recovered from the Zodiac case, although it is not 100% certain that the sample came from Zodiac himself.

I wonder if they've compared the sample with McDuff's and found some similarities?
Possibly relating to a relative perhaps???

[Abby Normal]

It seems to be Kenneth Allen McDuff.

He was a serial killer who was executed in 1998.

The problem is that he seems to have been incarcerated from 1966 - 1989.

Very strange!

wow never even heard of this guy before. hes obviously not the zodiac though.
released after killing three people he went on to murder six more. the reason I strongly favor the death penalty and never releasing/paroling convicted murderers. let em rot in jail or better yet-exterminate them so they can never harm someone again or be a burden on society.

[barnflatwyngarde]

wow. which one?

It seems to be Kenneth Allen McDuff.

He was a serial killer who was executed in 1998.

The problem is that he seems to have been incarcerated from 1966 - 1989.

Very strange!

[jason_c]

Shouldn't be too long now, recently investigators requested a thread get taken down on the zodiac forum and a number of high profile Zodiac researches with different police sources are confident they know who the Zodiac is.

I'd remain cautious for now about investigators wanting the thread closed down. I can think of a couple of reasons why they would request the thread closed down without him necessarily being a major POI of law enforcement.

[Astatine211]

wow. which one?

Someone called Mcduff. I don't know anything else but apparently they had a thread running about him and he was a promising suspect. A few weeks ago investigators contacted them and asked them to remove the thread. The forums mods aren't allowed to say anything more and requested people who saw the thread don't discuss it or Mcduff.

[Abby Normal]

Shouldn't be too long now, recently investigators requested a thread get taken down on the zodiac forum and a number of high profile Zodiac researches with different police sources are confident they know who the Zodiac is.

wow. which one?

[Astatine211]

Shouldn't be too long now, recently investigators requested a thread get taken down on the zodiac forum and a number of high profile Zodiac researches with different police sources are confident they know who the Zodiac is.

[barnflatwyngarde]

I caught the last 2 episodes of the series The Most Dangerous Animal Of All. Looks like another perfect example of someone (Gary Stewart) becoming so obsessed by a theory that he was willing to falsify evidence to prop it up.

Herlock I watched all four episodes of the documentary, and found it genuinely fascinating.

At first it appeared that it was going to be another "my dad/husband/neighbour etc, etc, etc was Zodiac."
However, halfway through episode 2 it morphed into something completely diffetrent.

What I found fascinating was the resonance it had to the Whitechapel murders, in particular how confirmation bias can totally consume some people to such a degree that they refuse, or are unable to accept any other facts or criticism which which weaken their case.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I just ordered The Zodiac Revisited Part 1 by Michael Cole which has had great reviews (along with parts 2 and 3) I didn’t finish the Graysmith book although I read it a few years ago. I’ll give this one a go.