** The Murder of Julia Wallace **

[etenguy]

I totally agree. It’s the strongest point against William planning to say that there was someone still inside the house when he returned. To be honest it’s possibly the killer blow against my suggestion. I’m wondering if William at the time, and on the spur of the moment might have thought about suggesting that someone was inside the house and maybe he gave that impression to Johnston (maybe he mentioned to a detective “we though that there might have been someone inside”) but then later, realising the weakness of the suggestion (pointed out by yourself), tried to deny ever having it? It would explain why he was so keen to deny having the thought in the first place?

Hi Herlock

That is exactly what happened - trial extract below taken from the julia foundation web-site. It is telling how Wallace goes from denial to acceptance he had the idea and discounted it.

Then there is one other question I want to put to you upon that. Do you remember Inspector Gold asking you whether you thought there was someone in the house when you got back? I think that was page 53. That was when the statement Exhibit 42 was taken. Do you remember him asking you if you thought anyone was in the house when you got back, and do you remember your answer?

Wallace - No, I do not.

“I thought someone was in the house when I went to the front door because I could not open it, and I could not open the back door”. Do you remember saying that?

Wallace - No, I do not.

Do you still think that when you were there you thought there was someone n the house?

Wallace - No, I do not.

You have given up the theory?

Wallace - Yes.

Did you ever believe it?

Wallace - I might have done at the moment.

Did you ever believe that someone was in the house and had unbolted the door there?

Wallace - At the moment I did.

[etenguy]

Just on the above - I have heard the theory - but not sure if there is any record of it - that it was suggested someone came in the back door while it was open, before Wallace returned from Menlove or even before Wallace left (and hid in the house) and committed the crime before Wallace returned. So the Mr Q call gets Wallace out of the house and in theory Mr Q robs the Wallaces and is away without being seen by either Willaim or Julia. This means Mr Q was solely to get Wallace out and not a way of trying to gain entrance. It explains how someone who knew the Wallaces might have committed the crime and thought they could get away without being recognised. If that was the case, then possibly Julia saw and recognised him and that led to the murder. I don't subscribe to this theory particularly, but it does answer the question of how robbery may have been intended and how it went wrong leading to murder.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Hi Herlock

That is exactly what happened - trial extract below taken from the julia foundation web-site. It is telling how Wallace goes from denial to acceptance he had the idea and discounted it.

Then there is one other question I want to put to you upon that. Do you remember Inspector Gold asking you whether you thought there was someone in the house when you got back? I think that was page 53. That was when the statement Exhibit 42 was taken. Do you remember him asking you if you thought anyone was in the house when you got back, and do you remember your answer?

Wallace - No, I do not.

“I thought someone was in the house when I went to the front door because I could not open it, and I could not open the back door”. Do you remember saying that?

Wallace - No, I do not.

Do you still think that when you were there you thought there was someone n the house?

Wallace - No, I do not.

You have given up the theory?

Wallace - Yes.

Did you ever believe it?

Wallace - I might have done at the moment.

Did you ever believe that someone was in the house and had unbolted the door there?

Wallace - At the moment I did.

Cheers Eten,

I knew that I wasn’t imagining it.

[Abby Normal]

Just on the above - I have heard the theory - but not sure if there is any record of it - that it was suggested someone came in the back door while it was open, before Wallace returned from Menlove or even before Wallace left (and hid in the house) and committed the crime before Wallace returned. So the Mr Q call gets Wallace out of the house and in theory Mr Q robs the Wallaces and is away without being seen by either Willaim or Julia. This means Mr Q was solely to get Wallace out and not a way of trying to gain entrance. It explains how someone who knew the Wallaces might have committed the crime and thought they could get away without being recognised. If that was the case, then possibly Julia saw and recognised him and that led to the murder. I don't subscribe to this theory particularly, but it does answer the question of how robbery may have been intended and how it went wrong leading to murder.

but how is just getting him out of the house work for a robbery when mr q knows the wife will still be home. its not like its a robbery when someone will be asleep. its not in the middle of the night. surely mr q knows he has to contend with julia wether she knows him or not.