Amy Wallace, was she involved?

[Ven]

Common knowledge??!! by whom? embarrassing to you!! who supports that she followed him to the back gate?

[WallaceWackedHer]

Common knowledge??!! by whom? embarrassing to you!! who supports that she followed him to the back gate?

Everyone. Embarassing. If I were to find a comparison for the level of embarassment attained, I would say it is almost as embarassing as stealing $285,000 from 100 year old ladies while having power of attorney then marrying Shrek's twin sister.

You have STRONG chance at redemption though. Where's the evidence you discovered about Amy meeting William? That is very important.

[Ven]

Everyone!? LOL if the back gate was BOLTED by Julia, how did William get access?

[Ven]

I think the evidence is schizophrenic babblings but will reserve judgement on the off chance Amy legit met up with William on the murder day. I definitely missed that. So did everyone else.

Please show this so I can check.

NO, not everyone just you. Schizopherinic babblings??!!

[Ven]

https://forum.casebook.org/forum/social-chat/other-mysteries/731677-amy-wallace-was-she-involved?p=738284#post738284

[Herlock Sholmes]

Wallace said in his second statement: “When I left the house at 6.45pm on Tuesday night last my wife came down the backyard with me as far as the yard door which she closed. I do not remember if she bolted it.”

PC Williams testified that on the night of the murder Wallace had said: “She walked a little way down the entry with me, and she returned and bolted the backyard door.”

Wallace denied saying this. PC Williams might simply have gotten this wrong though. If Julia walked a small way down the alley with William, then returned and went inside the yard, with William presumably walking on, how could he have seen Julia bolting the gate?

An alternative would be that William initially intended to claim that Julia bolted it and that it was unbolted by a fleeing killer but maybe he considered the police asking him why he appeared to expect it being unbolted?

He might have expected Julia to have locked it though so maybe Wallace mentioned this and the PC misheard or misremembered?

This is linked to a point that I’ve raised recently though. Why was Wallace surprised that the back door wasn’t locked and bolted? Julia was in the house alone, after dark and she knew that William would return via the front door. We might add the back gate too. Surely William would have expected the backdoor to have been bolted for the night?

[WallaceWackedHer]

Everyone!? LOL if the back gate was BOLTED by Julia, how did William get access?

Because someone had unbolted it to leave... What a waste of time...

What was the conversation we were having previously before this incel joined in? It was something much more important.

[WallaceWackedHer]

Wallace said in his second statement: “When I left the house at 6.45pm on Tuesday night last my wife came down the backyard with me as far as the yard door which she closed. I do not remember if she bolted it.”

PC Williams testified that on the night of the murder Wallace had said: “She walked a little way down the entry with me, and she returned and bolted the backyard door.”

Wallace denied saying this. PC Williams might simply have gotten this wrong though. If Julia walked a small way down the alley with William, then returned and went inside the yard, with William presumably walking on, how could he have seen Julia bolting the gate?

An alternative would be that William initially intended to claim that Julia bolted it and that it was unbolted by a fleeing killer but maybe he considered the police asking him why he appeared to expect it being unbolted?

He might have expected Julia to have locked it though so maybe Wallace mentioned this and the PC misheard or misremembered?

This is linked to a point that I’ve raised recently though. Why was Wallace surprised that the back door wasn’t locked and bolted? Julia was in the house alone, after dark and she knew that William would return via the front door. We might add the back gate too. Surely William would have expected the backdoor to have been bolted for the night?

I recall PC Williams did not take the notes of this statement down at the time, he wrote it down later from memory. He might even state precisely how soon after.

[Ven]

Amy's meeting with William at 4pm

[Herlock Sholmes]

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If you admit the plan is bizarre, unnecessarily convoluted, and full of holes, then you have to consider that the planner is either an idiot with poor foresight OR it's not a plan.

This is an all-or-nothing viewpoint. This is an imperfect plan created by a human being. Possibly a human being who had an exaggerated opinion of his own intelligence and ability. As I said earlier this is a very common trait in murderers. It’s almost a prerequisite.

You can easily find intelligent people that have poor skills at certain tasks. Wallace might have had poor strategic and tactical thinking hence his poor performances at chess.

[WallaceWackedHer]

Amy's meeting with William at 4pm

Your post is blank. If you provide this evidence it will actually upgrade you from incel cuck status, that would be immensely significant.

[Ven]

Today, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Ven View Post
Everyone!? LOL if the back gate was BOLTED by Julia, how did William get access?
Because someone had unbolted it to leave... What a waste of time...

BUT IF WILLIAM DIDN'T KNOW WHY WOULD HE TRY A BOLTED GATE??

What was the conversation we were having previously before this incel joined in? It was something much more important.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Amy's meeting with William at 4pm

Ven, I think that this might have been a meeting that WWH was postulating when considering the possible involvement of Amy? There’s nothing in the records that mention a meeting of Amy and William as far as I’m aware.

[WallaceWackedHer]

This is an all-or-nothing viewpoint. This is an imperfect plan created by a human being. Possibly a human being who had an exaggerated opinion of his own intelligence and ability. As I said earlier this is a very common trait in murderers. It’s almost a prerequisite.

You can easily find intelligent people that have poor skills at certain tasks. Wallace might have had poor strategic and tactical thinking hence his poor performances at chess.

Yes this is what I am trying to convey... Imperfect plan, flawed, etc. whatever... The person has "poor strategic and tactical thinking", is dumb, forgetful (East might be a mistake), or anything else along those lines if it IS a plan. OR it is not a plan.

[Ven]

Originally posted by Ven View Post
Amy's meeting with William at 4pm
Your post is blank. If you provide this evidence it will actually upgrade you from incel cuck status, that would be immensely significant.

WOW... i posted it ages ago... and your reference checking is so good then WTF.


Incel cuck status... Wow... I really am trying...