Julie Wallace

[louisa]

Am I right in thinking that John Lennon lived in one of the 'Menloves'?

[sdreid]

Yes, I believe Menlove Avenue was where John Lennon once lived.

I think a policeman who Wallace asked for directions actually told him to look at Menlove Avenue as a possible substitute for Menlove Gardens East.

[louisa]

Thanks Stan.

I've just ordered a copy of 'The Man From The Pru' on the strength of the comments that I've been reading here.

I don't know how many times it's been shown on British TV but I've managed to miss it each time.

[Hatchett]

Hi Louisa,

I have only seen it once. That was when it was first broadcasted. It was very impressive. I am not too sure though that the book would be as valuable in complete detail as the other books that have been written on the case. But clearly the acting skills and the dramatisations were superb.

Best wishes.

[sdreid]

It played on PBS here; maybe Masterpiece Theater.

[Archaic]

John Lennon & Menlove Avenue

Am I right in thinking that John Lennon lived in one of the 'Menloves'?

Hi Louisa, Stan, and all.

John Lennon's childhood home was at 251 Menlove Avenue, and an album of his (released posthumously) was called 'Menlove Avenue'.

Best regards,
Archaic

[harry]

Maybe someone can answer a question for me(or maybe more than one question).Did the person who took the phone call for Wallace,I have it down as a barmaid,put the message to paper,or was it communicated verbally to Wallace,from memory, when he reached the club?When and by whom was the name 'R.M.Qualtrough' first entered in print?At the trial was any evidence as to the spelling of the name,given in evidence?The short article I have on the crime,doesn't answer my questions,nor do articles appearing on the net.

[louisa]

I expect the police would have investigated all permutations of a surname as unusual as Qualtrough. The person who first took the message would have needed to ask how a name like that was spelt.

Whenever I've read that name I've always read it as being pronounced 'Kwal-truff' yet on the Man From the Pru (which I'm in the middle of watching for the first time) the name is pronounced 'Kwal-tro'.

In this dramatisation the writers have more than hinted that Julia and Gordon Parry were having an affair. I thought he just occasionally came round for a sing-song round the piano?

[sdreid]

Samuel Beattie would probably have been the only person who heard "Qualtrough" pronounce the name so we need to know how he pronounced it in his testimony. I suppose there's a chance that the telephone operator could have heard it. To my knowledge, the caller didn't give the name to Gladys Harley. I guess it's possible that the caller only spelled the name and didn't even pronounce it himself.

[sdreid]

As with dramatizations of all the cases I've seen, The Man From the Pru uses some license.

[Marko]

Did the person who took the phone call for Wallace, put the message to paper,or was it communicated verbally to Wallace,from memory, when he reached the club?When and by whom was the name 'R.M.Qualtrough' first entered in print?At the trial was any evidence as to the spelling of the name,given in evidence?The short article I have on the crime,doesn't answer my questions,nor do articles appearing on the net.

Chess Club Captain Samuel Beattie asked the caller to spell the name out to him. Beattie wrote the details down on an envelope and handed them to Wallace on his arrival. Wallace then copied the details into his business diary and handed the envelope back to Beattie.

The name Qualtrough is pronounced Qualt (as in quality) with the 'rough' pronounced 'roe.' Some adaptations pronounce it as Qualtruff but this is completely wrong.

[burkhilly]

Hi Mark

How's your book coming along. John Gannon's book will be out in the next couple of months. Am looking forward to his theories.

[RonIpstone]

It would seem that the name "Qualtrough" is of Manx origin, at any rate according to what is written here.

I did a search on the Find My Past site of all Qualtroughs born between 1845 and 1912. This revealed that there were 47 Qualtroughs whose births were registered in England and Wales between those dates. All but 2 were registered in the north west of England and the vast majority were registered in West Derby, Liverpool. Alas not one had the initials 'R.M.'.

In the early 1930's the Qualtrough name, if not exactly commonplace, was not unknown in Liverpool.

[burkhilly]

John Gannon's book has a December release. Just saw on Yo.

[harry]

Thanks Marko,
I look forward to reading your book if it becomes available in Australia.Just one more question if I may.Was the club captains statement on this given as evidence at the trial?
Regards.