Move to Murder: Who Killed Julia Wallace?

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Everyone on here knows my view on the case at this point in time (I don’t say that my opinion couldn’t alter but it would take something drastic to turn up for that to happen. So WWH it’s down to you) I won’t say that The Accomplice Theory is impossible though. Very unlikely imo but not impossible. I feel that I can say that because no one has argued more vociferously than myself and AS with Rod on this subject and I’d continue to do so were the debate ongoing. For me Parry has an alibi and so can be discounted as the murderer unless there is evidence of a conspiracy to give him a false alibi (and there isn’t.) The idea that Wallace took advantage of a prank call I have to admit to finding laughable. I don’t think that Wallace used Parry in any way (I know that WWH suspects that Wallace got Parry to make the call but I don’t. It’s not impossible and I could be wrong but my opinion stands.) I genuinely can’t see the Johnston’s being involved in any way (again it’s not impossible but I just don’t see it.) I dont think the killer was a stranger or the Anfield Housebreaker (yet again it’s not impossible but unlikely in the extreme imo.)

    So from the named theories (obviously we can’t pronounce on unnamed ones) I think it’s Wallace or the Accomplice Theory in some form. And I’m still 90+% for Wallace alone. There are queries and doubts of course but for me there are far fewer than other theories. My simple view is that over time Wallace grew to despise Julia. His poor health and realisation that he might not have long to live pushed him into believing that he deserved to ‘enjoy’ his last few years without the misery of nursemaiding and constantly ill and complaining old woman. He came up with a plan and carried it out. We can only surmise at the details.

    Even if we take one point - the viciousness of the murder. Not every time of course but this usually points to a personal motive - anger, resentment, hatred. If that one point is an accurate one in this case then it can only have been Wallace.

    We can add the not minor point that only Wallace can be placed at or even near the scene of the crime.

    No blood outside of the Parlour implies either excessive caution and care when leaving the house or an effort on the killers part to prevent himself being covered in blood or some form of clean up. Why would a random killer be so careful? Apart from fingerprints of course. It’s surely overwhelmingly likely that a sneak thief/burglar would have worn gloves which would in all likelihood have become bloody during the attack and yet there was no blood on the gas jets or the doors or the door handles. Would another killer have taken off his gloves to leave prints around the house? Wallace could though.

    There would have been several ways that a plan to get Wallace out of the house by a phone call might have failed. None of which required any fantastical strokes of ill-fortune, just simple, plausible things that could have occurred. If Wallace was the planner though every one of these issues becomes non-existent. The Accomplice Theory relied implicitly on Wallace mentioning Qualtrough’s name to Julia so that she might (and it was only a ‘might) let him in. There’s just no way that Parry could have even hoped that Wallace would have mentioned the name Qualtrough to a wife that took absolutely no interest in his work.

    Parry’s actions on the night of the murder don’t speak of a man taking part in a plan and his visit to the Williamson’s and the Lloyd’s certainly dont speak of a man who has just been told that his scam to get the insurance money has now turned into a hanging offence and that a woman that he might have actually been quite fond of had been bludgeoned to death.

    I won’t go into Parkes because this is a long enough post as it is. But can anyone truly say that his testimony is believable? It make no sense at all unless we accept that Parry was suicidally moronic.

    I haven’t done a long Wallace post for ages. Nothing new I’m afraid. It’s still Wallace alone for me as the likeliest solution.

    PS.

    I didn’t even mention Wallace walking past the Parlour this time.

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  • WallaceWackedHer
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    Originally posted by ColdCaseJury View Post

    WWH, if you find the Accomplice theory completely implausible that's fine with me. The whole point of the Cold Case Jury books is that I do not pretend to know what happened. Indeed, I have grave doubts about what actually transpired in each of the cases in the series so far. And the next book is no exception.

    However, from my tweet:

    Myself, Mr Arman and Year 7 & 8 pupils of Wycliffe College who did a brilliant dramatisation of William Wallace's trial based on my book Move To Murder in Gloucester Crown Court last night. Amazing! Loved it! Hope to see you all next year, same place different book!

    you wrote:

    I noticed that Antony did a recreation of the accomplice theory using a bunch of little kids.

    And then:

    I mean, Julia going into the parlor after discovering a burglar to light a fire and relax should set off alarm bells even in the heads of prepubescents.

    Both are factually incorrect. How can you claim the former from the tweet and the latter from my book? Perhaps you intended both to be jokes, but you came across - to me at least - as having a sneering and patronising attitude with a disdain for accuracy in favour of hyperbole.

    I'm sure many will agree with your views of the case even when you don't make unwarranted assumptions or belittle the efforts of others.
    Actually I just didn't read the tweet properly, and misremembered the fire part. But I do recall quite a lot of ridiculousness in that theory. I mean I put £££ in your pocket by buying the book so in any case you should be pleased even if I misremember a detail.

    I'm just absolutely incredulous you see that particular theory as being more than like, 0.1% likely (in the way it is presented), given your knowledge of the case and skills of logic. I woulda altered it if it was my book, it just doesn't work...

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  • ColdCaseJury
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    Originally posted by WallaceWackedHer View Post

    Yes correct, implausible, but so much so that impossible is a perfectly acceptable term. I can say it is impossible you will win the next Miss Universe beauty pageant - it's not literally impossible, but close enough to call it such. I can assure you that the likelihood of Julia having discovered a burglar is bordering on the sort of odds of being struck by lightning. The scenario I read of Julia apparently retreating and taking comfort in the scent/feel of Wallace's jacket (or whatever it was) is obviously Alex Jones levels of wacko. That's a nitpick of one point, but literally the entire thing from beginning to end is reptilian overlord tier wack, and pretty much all evidence STRONGLY points away from that scenario which you put forward.

    If the kiddywinks actually re-enacted the scenario (with neighbors either side of the main set) you will see what I mean. Many, many posters have already explained the various reasons why it is the least plausible scenario and I am sure they will do so again in upcoming posts. It's like the Flat Earth Society of the Wallace case... The funny thing is, if you actually modified it you could make it possible, but the one you stick to is just essentially impossible.

    If she was killed by a burglar, think more along the lines that he stole the cash, then realized he had to kill her as she knew him (AKA it wasn't a stranger) and therefore would be a witness. But in all similar cases where this has been done (there are actually quite a few - the person did not even know they were burgled, just murdered to silence the witness) much more was stolen and the place ransacked.

    If Wallace had a mistress she could also have done it out of jealous rage, which is another common scenario in true crimes.
    WWH, if you find the Accomplice theory completely implausible that's fine with me. The whole point of the Cold Case Jury books is that I do not pretend to know what happened. Indeed, I have grave doubts about what actually transpired in each of the cases in the series so far. And the next book is no exception.

    However, from my tweet:

    Myself, Mr Arman and Year 7 & 8 pupils of Wycliffe College who did a brilliant dramatisation of William Wallace's trial based on my book Move To Murder in Gloucester Crown Court last night. Amazing! Loved it! Hope to see you all next year, same place different book!

    you wrote:

    I noticed that Antony did a recreation of the accomplice theory using a bunch of little kids.

    And then:

    I mean, Julia going into the parlor after discovering a burglar to light a fire and relax should set off alarm bells even in the heads of prepubescents.

    Both are factually incorrect. How can you claim the former from the tweet and the latter from my book? Perhaps you intended both to be jokes, but you came across - to me at least - as having a sneering and patronising attitude with a disdain for accuracy in favour of hyperbole.

    I'm sure many will agree with your views of the case even when you don't make unwarranted assumptions or belittle the efforts of others.

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  • WallaceWackedHer
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    Originally posted by ColdCaseJury View Post

    Don't have much time to scan or contribute to the thread as I'm writing my next book but this one caught my eye.

    My tweet clearly said the year 7s and 8s recreated the trial of William Wallace. In fact, they put both Wallace and Parry on trial based on their own work. They invited me along to watch what they had done and was happy to go. And you keep on saying the accomplice theory is "completely impossible" - I presume you mean you find it completely implausible. Clearly, it is not impossible, and I'll spare you a refresher on the different types of possibility (logical, metaphysical, nomological, factual etc) and modal logics. And you keep on stating that the accomplice theory states that Julia lit the fire after she had discovered the burglar. You mock, reference 5 year olds, but can you even read?
    Yes correct, implausible, but so much so that impossible is a perfectly acceptable term. I can say it is impossible you will win the next Miss Universe beauty pageant - it's not literally impossible, but close enough to call it such. I can assure you that the likelihood of Julia having discovered a burglar is bordering on the sort of odds of being struck by lightning. The scenario I read of Julia apparently retreating and taking comfort in the scent/feel of Wallace's jacket (or whatever it was) is obviously Alex Jones levels of wacko. That's a nitpick of one point, but literally the entire thing from beginning to end is reptilian overlord tier wack, and pretty much all evidence STRONGLY points away from that scenario which you put forward.

    If the kiddywinks actually re-enacted the scenario (with neighbors either side of the main set) you will see what I mean. Many, many posters have already explained the various reasons why it is the least plausible scenario and I am sure they will do so again in upcoming posts. It's like the Flat Earth Society of the Wallace case... The funny thing is, if you actually modified it you could make it possible, but the one you stick to is just essentially impossible.

    If she was killed by a burglar, think more along the lines that he stole the cash, then realized he had to kill her as she knew him (AKA it wasn't a stranger) and therefore would be a witness. But in all similar cases where this has been done (there are actually quite a few - the person did not even know they were burgled, just murdered to silence the witness) much more was stolen and the place ransacked.

    If Wallace had a mistress she could also have done it out of jealous rage, which is another common scenario in true crimes.

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  • ColdCaseJury
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    Originally posted by WallaceWackedHer View Post

    In other news I noticed that Antony did a recreation of the accomplice theory using a bunch of little kids:



    I wonder if any of them actually bought into it? Since as we know it is completely impossible. I also wonder if he was honest enough to put up a couple of divider walls with neighbors on either side who were totally oblivious to the arguing and commotion next door. But I mean, Julia going into the parlor after discovering a burglar to light a fire and relax should set off alarm bells even in the heads of prepubescents.

    Perhaps he should try with 5 year olds next time
    Don't have much time to scan or contribute to the thread as I'm writing my next book but this one caught my eye.

    My tweet clearly said the year 7s and 8s recreated the trial of William Wallace. In fact, they put both Wallace and Parry on trial based on their own work. They invited me along to watch what they had done and was happy to go. And you keep on saying the accomplice theory is "completely impossible" - I presume you mean you find it completely implausible. Clearly, it is not impossible, and I'll spare you a refresher on the different types of possibility (logical, metaphysical, nomological, factual etc) and modal logics. And you keep on stating that the accomplice theory states that Julia lit the fire after she had discovered the burglar. You mock, reference 5 year olds, but can you even read?

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  • WallaceWackedHer
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    I also have new testimony for you all, because I bring the goods brah:

    Hi my grandfather knew Wallace he always said Wallace was guilty and that he had killed her in the nude.and then got dressed after he had killed her. They are buried in anfield cemetery just by my Grandmother when we went to visit my grandmother's grave my grandad used to go mad that he is buried with her always said it wasn't right .I am in my 60s now cannot remember a lot of what he used to tell me .I remember he told me something about the next door neighbour moving out the next day.But I do remember him saying Wallace had a fancy woman and he was a lot cleverer than he let on he was .Gosh haven't heard poor Julia Wallace mentioned for a long long time used to put flowers on her grave as a child and say there for you Julie not him .surprised you young ones know about her but nice all the same
    Hi I am not sure if what what i am telling you is the truth or just my grandad going on.I donot even know for sure how he knew Wallace and Parry.but i think they were his insurance men as my Nan also knew them..My Grandad was a lovely man and beside Wallace I never heard him call another living soul or say A bad word about anyone.

    The last time I remember speaking to him about this case was either late 1970s or early 1980s.(i know my daughter was a baby and she was born december 1979).Either radio city or radio merseyside did a show every week called Who killed Julia I Think the mans name was Roger but I cannot rember his surname.MY Grandad used to shout to the radio I Will tell you, that swine she was married to.I Remember asking him about how he got cleaned up and he said there blood in the bathroom,and in those days he said very few people had bathrooms acutally he said "The same as every one else in those days with a soapy rag that he wraped round the poker and got rid of"He was convinced he had hit her with the Handle of the poker the thick part at the top.He said he only needed to wash his hands and face. I Donot know who the woman was but I seem to think it was a woman he used to visit regulary.

    When the man on the radio said Parry more or less done the murder I Thought he was going to throw the Radio out of the window.He said parry was a wide boy he would steal the eyes out of your head but he wasn't a killer.He also said a jilted woman was a very dangerous thing.There is no scorn like A womans scorn especally scorned in love.is what he said I don't think he liked Wallace. said he acted quiet and soft but he was a chess player and could anticapate the next move.He also said that Wallace Knew liverpool like the back of his hand.

    Wallace had friends in Allerton and knew Menlove ave and the gardens.He said Wallace knew there was no such adress and he played a blinder by asking a copper the time.He was also sure that Wallace made the phone call to the chess club.as the phone box was next to the tram stop were Wallace got the tram just around the corner from his house.He also said that the house hadn't been robbed and by leaving the gas fire on and leaving her by the fire and not comming back till quater to nine Wallace thought she would be burnt to a crisp. The only thing I Can remember him saying about the nieghbours was that they was that scared of Wallace doing them in apparentley he asked them if they had heard anything they move over the water the next day to get away from him .

    I am not quiet sure but I think I remember in the 1960s the man that lived next door was in a home with dementia and he told someone that he had gone to rob the Wallaces house and Julia had caught him and he killed her.I Seem to rember it being in the liverpool Echo.As for the knocking what we tend to forget there was no televisions or radios then,so you could hear everything that went on in the street everyone had a distinctive knock years ago we knew who people were by their knock.grandad said that this was their habit to go to pub at quater to nine for the last drink as they shut at 10pm then.and Wallace knew this.

    Last little Gem why would anyone want to Rob a insurrance mans house at the begining of the week on a tuesday when nearly everyone got paid on a Friday in those days so he would only have coppers there .And why would you close the tin and put it back in the cupboard.YOU probably know all this anyway but I would have loved you to have met my Grandad and seen his face and reactions when when he talked about him one time he was telling us about when Wallace was dying and he sent for his lawyer Who became A MP I Don't remember his name.my grandad nearly had a heart attact when he came to the part where Wallace got hold of the lawyers hand and said "WELL WE WON SONNY JIM,DIDN'T WE.
    I Think he said Parry was sacked or left the prudental under a cloud in 1929.He would only have the royal liver for insurance.I Think it was him who read it out to us from the Echo about the neighbour.My grandad worked on the docks so i wouldn't tell you what he said about that .but he thought someone had said this to the poor man and having dementia he thought he did.do it.Iremember saying to him why hadn't the murder weapon been found then, his answer to that was "Dfferent days girl 1931 Murder was as rare and people were very poor if you found a lovely poker like that you would think you had won the pools take it home clean it up and pawn it.he said it was probabley sitting on someones fire grate he was a case
    All messages are from the same person, but were sent separately. I tried to make some paragraphs to make it more readable.

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  • WallaceWackedHer
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    Mightn’t we also add that if Wallace used Parry to make the call why would he then try and suggest Parry as the killer after the appeal. It makes little or no sense to me. If Parry had been arrested under suspicion he knew that he had a cast iron alibi for the time of the murder unlike Wallace himself. And even if Parry was a less believable character than the respectable Wallace he still would have been in a vastly stronger position with this alibi. Surely a far too great a risk for Wallace to have taken with the gallows looming?
    Many killers try to finger other people as the murderer. I don't know what you mean about the latter, if he had tricked Parry into making a phone call he would know he couldn't have an alibi and therefore would be a perfect scapegoat.

    ---

    In other news I noticed that Antony did a recreation of the accomplice theory using a bunch of little kids:



    I wonder if any of them actually bought into it? Since as we know it is completely impossible. I also wonder if he was honest enough to put up a couple of divider walls with neighbors on either side who were totally oblivious to the arguing and commotion next door. But I mean, Julia going into the parlor after discovering a burglar to light a fire and relax should set off alarm bells even in the heads of prepubescents.

    Perhaps he should try with 5 year olds next time

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Mightn’t we also add that if Wallace used Parry to make the call why would he then try and suggest Parry as the killer after the appeal. It makes little or no sense to me. If Parry had been arrested under suspicion he knew that he had a cast iron alibi for the time of the murder unlike Wallace himself. And even if Parry was a less believable character than the respectable Wallace he still would have been in a vastly stronger position with this alibi. Surely a far too great a risk for Wallace to have taken with the gallows looming?

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by WallaceWackedHer View Post
    It doesn't matter what he could/should have done. The fact is that he gave a false alibi, which was easily proven false, something countless other criminals have done. So this really does not mean anything. You could look into cases of many convicted killers and be like "their alibi must be falsified just because they were confused with another day!". It's nothing new, and therefore should not be considered proof he's being truthful.

    I don't even think it was pre-planned on HIS part. I think he thought he was just making a call for some other reason, definitely not to take part in killing Julia. And with bookworm Wallace of all people. I'm sure he felt quite safe about the whole ordeal. I should suspect he was quite surprised when he found out what happened.


    I certainly would claim any proof of innocence. Only that there has to be a chance that Parry might have simply been mistaken. And if Parry was only making what he believed to have been a prank call then he had absolutely no need to lie. In fact we can go so far as to say that if it could be proved that Parry thought that he was making a prank call then we could categorically call it an error.



    Parry knew Beattie didn't have the address because Wallace told him as much. But there was an easy "get out of jail free" card in any case, should he be like "oh that's far away, I can't make it tonight, can you leave him a message?" etc.

    But then when he asked for Wallace to come and see him tomorrow he could have said why don’t you go to his house tomorrow? With Wallace being contacted at his club which he might have found strange would this asking for his address have increased his suspicion? Either way Parry just didn’t need to ask the question.

    As for the forensics stuff, no, they don't need to hear the voice. Just a transcript of the words. That's all they need. I'm going to give him Wallace's statements, Parry's statement, and the Johnston's (maybe some trial stuff)... Unless he tells me it's gonna cost like 10K lmao.

    I take my hat off to you WWH.
    So much is inknown and unknowable.

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  • WallaceWackedHer
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    It doesn't matter what he could/should have done. The fact is that he gave a false alibi, which was easily proven false, something countless other criminals have done. So this really does not mean anything. You could look into cases of many convicted killers and be like "their alibi must be falsified just because they were confused with another day!". It's nothing new, and therefore should not be considered proof he's being truthful.

    I don't even think it was pre-planned on HIS part. I think he thought he was just making a call for some other reason, definitely not to take part in killing Julia. And with bookworm Wallace of all people. I'm sure he felt quite safe about the whole ordeal. I should suspect he was quite surprised when he found out what happened.

    Parry knew Beattie didn't have the address because Wallace told him as much. But there was an easy "get out of jail free" card in any case, should he be like "oh that's far away, I can't make it tonight, can you leave him a message?" etc.

    As for the forensics stuff, no, they don't need to hear the voice. Just a transcript of the words. That's all they need. I'm going to give him Wallace's statements, Parry's statement, and the Johnston's (maybe some trial stuff)... Unless he tells me it's gonna cost like 10K lmao.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by WallaceWackedHer View Post
    I remain unconvinced. It seems there may be a vested interest to clear Parry of any involvement whatsoever. Criminals have countless times given easily falsifiable alibis, just the same as Gordon, so why in this case should it be an exception? For any investigating law enforcement, giving a false alibi would certainly raise him as a suspect, and rightly so.

    I tend to think the opposite. Parry is the bad boy of the piece. The criminal against the ‘good guy’ Wallace. I think it galls people that Parry had an alibi for the time of the murder and so we know for a fact that he didn’t kill Julia. And so second prize is to tie him into some kind of plan or conspiracy. And so he ‘must’mhave Lied about his Monday night alibi. But this crime wasn’t a spur-of-the-moment thing it was planned. So why didn’t Parry set himself up with an alibi from one of his dodgy mates? And let’s face it, even having no alibi would have been 100% better than an easily disprovable false one that he didn’t need to give. If he’d have said “I was just driving around” then so what? He had a cast iron alibi for the time of the murder and that’s all that mattered.

    The evidence that Wallace called is no weaker or stronger than the evidence that Parry did. The situation with Beattie is similar too... Your gardener didn't recognize the voice at first, but then when told it was you he realized. Beattie was essentially told it could have been Wallace calling him, so quite a similar factor.

    The caller asking for Wallace’s address points more to Wallace. Who was taking the risk of Beattie giving him the address: Parry who had no way of knowing that Beattie didn’t know his address or Wallace who certainly did?

    I don't buy the excuses. Like when did Lillian teach, what day of the week was the 19th? I would think it would be very hard to mix your days up. Very hard indeed. It seems like a big stretch in fact.

    It might seem so to us but I certainly get days mixed up. It’s not impossible therefore it’s possible. How utterly stupid would Parry have to have been to have given a blatantly disprovable alibi? It wasn’t even in panic. He’d had plenty of time to work out what he was going to say to the police. He’d even had enough time for ask Lillian Lloyd to back him up. It seems unlikely that he did and she refused considering future events.

    If Gordon had rang, then it would help out a killer Wallace.

    I think that if Wallace needed help Parry would have been the last person he would have trusted. I think that far too much is made of the fact that Beattie didn’t recognise Wallace’s voice. A disguised voice - a business call - Beattie focusing on the content - Beattie having never received a prank call and probably even being unaware of what one was - the voice didn’t sound like Wallace’s - voices can sound different on the phone anyway. I have absolutely no issue with the fact that Wallace could have made the call.

    I will have new forensic evidence for you shortly (seriously). I've sent off emails to linguistic forensic scientists to analyze the statements given by each party, and perhaps some of the trial statements.

    That will be interesting WWH although doesn’t the fact that the actual voices can’t be heard affect the outcome? Also when things are transcribed they’re not always transcribed 100% accurately.

    In my view, Wallace showed deceptiveness when saying he was not seen crying.

    You could be right. I think that we shouldn’t dismis Rothwell’s testimony out of hand.
    I still go for the least complicated solution. Wallace alone. There isn’t a single fact to show that this couldn’t have happened. Would Wallace who, let’s face it, wasn’t exactly Ronnie Kray have wanted to trust someone else in this? Someone like the completely untrustworthy Parry?
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  • WallaceWackedHer
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    I remain unconvinced. It seems there may be a vested interest to clear Parry of any involvement whatsoever. Criminals have countless times given easily falsifiable alibis, just the same as Gordon, so why in this case should it be an exception? For any investigating law enforcement, giving a false alibi would certainly raise him as a suspect, and rightly so.

    The evidence that Wallace called is no weaker or stronger than the evidence that Parry did. The situation with Beattie is similar too... Your gardener didn't recognize the voice at first, but then when told it was you he realized. Beattie was essentially told it could have been Wallace calling him, so quite a similar factor.

    I don't buy the excuses. Like when did Lillian teach, what day of the week was the 19th? I would think it would be very hard to mix your days up. Very hard indeed. It seems like a big stretch in fact.

    If Gordon had rang, then it would help out a killer Wallace.

    I will have new forensic evidence for you shortly (seriously). I've sent off emails to linguistic forensic scientists to analyze the statements given by each party, and perhaps some of the trial statements.

    In my view, Wallace showed deceptiveness when saying he was not seen crying.

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  • caz
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    Thanks for that Molly....er Caz. Sorry but you type just like Molly. Welcome back. Where ya been?

    Really good points. As you said 1. The voice was asking for Wallace and 2. It wouldn’t have sounded like Wallace’s voice.

    We can perhaps add the fact that, as a serious businessman in 1931, the idea of a prank phone call would have been an alien one to Samuel Beattie and this call was about business. These days if we get an ‘unusual’ call our natural first thought is “hang on, is this Caz winding me up?” This wouldn’t have been the case with Beattie. And you’ve just shown with your example how even someone that’s completely familiar with you’re voice can get it wrong. Even someone that you’d been speaking to face-to-face minutes earlier!

    Personally ive never had an issue with the ‘Beattie didn’t recognise Wallace’s voice’ argument.
    Cheers HR!

    I haven't had much spare time for the message boards of late, but am trying to catch up, bit by bit, with the topics that interest me most.

    My Mum's name was Molly too, so I did a double take when I saw your first line.

    Love,

    Caz
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  • caz
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    Originally posted by WallaceWackedHer View Post
    I feel he may have thought it was your voice in retrospect. You should ask your gardener if thinking back he now realizes it was your voice.
    Hi WWH,

    There are two crucial differences in our case: 1) I made absolutely no attempt to disguise my voice, and 2) I told him it was me, during both calls, and he then realised his mistake. I wasn't trying to fool anyone.

    Whoever Qualtrough was, his sole reason for making that call was to fool people.

    Love,

    Caz
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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    I don’t even think that he faked an alibi because it wasn’t one that he could have believed for a second would be upheld. I’d say that it was impossible for Parry to have intentionally tried to trick the police. What could have been worse for him or more suicidally stupid than to have given such an obviously false and categorically refutable alibi. If he’d planned the crime (or even been a part of a plan) then not supplying the police with a pathetic ‘alibi’ would have been one of his main thoughts. I think that Parry was simply mistaken.

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