JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Fiver]

LBJ became the new Administration and his pals Hoover and Dulles helped him control this outcome. The WC has too many flaws to be believable.

If you think LBJ, Hoover, and Dulles were pals, then you know nothing about any of these men. Dulles gained nothing from the JFK assassination. He or Hoover would have gained far more by betraying a Conspiracy than they would have by supporting it.

[Fiver]

80% of the American Public believes it was a Conspiracy by LBJ, Hoover and Dulles.

Reality is not an opinion poll.

And your numbers are still wrong. 50% of Americans believe in a conspiracy. 28% believe Oswald acted alone. 22% didn't know.

And of those who believe there was a conspiracy, 43% believe the US government was involved, 33% believe that the FBI was involved, and 19% believe that LBJ was involved.

[Fiver]

That would depend on whether the conspirators wanted him shot or wanted him to escape surely.

If the Conspirators wanted Oswald shot, they were incredibly inept about it. Getting him into a car would be perfect if they wanted Oswald dead. You just drive him into the middle of the desert, shoot him there, and bury him in an unmarked grave.

[Fiver]

Correct, which is why he was driven to the theatre.

No Conspiracy would have any reason to drive Oswald to the Texas Theater. Oswald was observed entering the Texas Theater and he got there on foot, not by car.

[Fiver]

None by the WC. Thats zero. And she never got her film back.

Four interviews on the same day is four interviews. There never was any film because Moorman used a Polaroid, which was self-developing.

And Moorman got her photos back.

[Fiver]

Ive walked all of Dealy Plaza twice and the way you describe the grassy knoll area is incorrect..

It's not the way I describe it. It's the way Guy Russo, a pro-Conspiracy Consultant for Oliver Stone's JFK describes it.

"When one first stands behind the picket fence, he/she is struck by a number of sensations. First, there is no clear shot at the middle lane of Elm Street [where the limousine was] until the instant of the head shot, allowing for no earlier shots or tracking of the moving target. It turns out that the intended victim is obscured by road signs and a white retaining wall about ten feet in front of the fence.

An even more compelling problem was driven home during the filming of JFK. I was fortunate to be able to stand near the camera as this scene was reenacted. With the street crowd added as it appeared on the day of the shooting, it became clear that, insofar as the first two shots are concerned, a grassy knoll shot was also obstructed by the crowd that lined the sidewalk. The assassin would thus [have] had to shoot through the white wall, the road signs, and bystanders to get to the President."

[Fiver]

Elizabeth Moorman who was photographing on the side of this debris field had her film confiscated and she was NEVER interviewed.

(Minor self-correction)

Mary Ann Moorman gave statements on November 22 to the Dallas Police and the FBI. She was also interviewed by Jim Featherston of the Dallas Times Herald before she left Deally Plaza. That afternoon, Moorman was interviewed by WBAP TV and by KRLD radio. That night, Moorman was interviewed by WFAA TV.

That's six interviews, not zero.

[Fiver]

Your link to the UN in December 1942 makes no reference to Death Camps which I specified in my original post.

Either you haven't read the link or you haven't understood it.

"The attention of the Belgian, Czechoslovak, Greek, Jugoslav, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norwegian, Polish, Soviet, United Kingdom and United States Governments and also of the French National Committee has been drawn to numerous reports from Europe that the German authorities, not content with denying to persons of Jewish race in all the territories over which their barbarous rule has been extended, the most elementary human rights, are now carrying into effect Hitler's oft-repeated intention to exterminate the Jewish people in Europe.

From all the occupied countries Jews are being transported in conditions of appalling horror and brutality to Eastern Europe. In Poland, which has been made the principal Nazi slaughterhouse, the ghettos established by the German invader are being systematically emptied of all Jews except a few highly skilled workers required for war industries. None of those taken away are ever heard of again. The able-bodied are slowly worked to death in labor camps. The infirm are left to die of exposure and starvation or are deliberately massacred in mass executions. The number of victims of these bloody cruelties is reckoned in many hundreds of thousands of entirely innocent men, women and children.

The above-mentioned governments and the French National Committee condemn in the strongest possible terms this bestial policy of cold-blooded extermination. They declare that such events can only strengthen the resolve of all freedom-loving peoples to overthrow the barbarous Hitlerite tyranny. They reaffirm their solemn resolution to insure that those responsible for these crimes shall not escape retribution, and to press on with the necessary practical measures to this end."

[scottnapa]

It's not the way I describe it. It's the way Guy Russo, a pro-Conspiracy Consultant for Oliver Stone's JFK describes it.

"[I]When one first stands behind the picket fence, he/she is struck by a number of sensations. First, there is no clear shot at the middle lane of Elm Street [where the limousine was] until the instant of the head shot, allowing for no earlier shots her or tracking of the moving target. It turns out that the intended victim is obscured by road signs and a white retaining wall about ten feet in front of the fence.

GUS RUSSO did work on the FRONTLINE JFK show.
A very different story told in Oliver Stone’s movie where John Newman was the prime influence on Oliver Stone’s movie. Also, Fletcher Proudy & Dick Russell.
Wikipedia:
“Russo was part of a team of researchers that worked on the 1993 Frontline Lee Harvey Oswald documentary, Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?, for PBS.^[2][3] He is the author of Live by the Sword: The Secret War Against Castro and the Death of JFK, a book which states that Lee Harvey Oswald alone killed the president in retribution for Kennedy's policies toward Fidel Castro and Cuba.^[1]“

Perhaps Guy Russo is a conspiracy writer but Gus Russo is not. Gus Russo is a conspiracy debunker.
….as for his comments on the fence. I have stood behind the fence. It was many years ago, standing next to me was Jim DiEugenio, it may have been his first standing behind the fence, as we moved away from the corner edge we found the spot and spoke about it. The shooter on the grassy knoll would not have fired from Russo’s position , he would have moved six inches to the right. This is the debunking problem. Russo has not disproved a shot from the knoll. He proves his agenda to his satisfaction.
He saw what he wanted to see. There is nothing to learn from Russo’s commentary on the grassy knoll.