JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Fiver]

Fiver and Herlock- Technology Advances it's 2025. I referenced 2023.

Technology advances. The laws of physics don't change.

[Fiver]

Using the mastoid process and the acromion as measuring points was brilliant from a deception standpoint. The mastoid process is the bony structure behind the ear and by being part of the head, is easily moved as the head moves.

The Acromion is top outer edge of the shoulder blade and is also easily moved by moving the shoulder up and down.

Welcome to Conspiracyland, where men with no experience in forensic autopsy making a mistake is "proof" of deliberate deception.

Your source never disappoints for providing humor.

[Patrick Differ]

The Laws of Physics and Geometry do not change. However Technology does advance. Digital Twin is a new Technology and has proven the single bullet alignments are wrong.

[Fiver]

The fact that the murderer was confronted whilst apparently doing no more than walking along the sidewalk, yet felt the need to resort to violence so quickly, also lends weight to a link with the JFK assassination. So I will work on the basis that the two murders were connected.

The simple answer is Tippit saw a man who matched the description of JFK's shooter and decided to stop and question him. The man panicked and shot Tippit, then ran off.

So why did Tippit stop? Well, we know his behaviour was reportedly erratic around this time.

There are claims that Tippit's behavior was erratic around this time. I have yet to see an explanation for this alleged behavior.

So who killed Tippit? I think Tippit was killed by a person connected to the JFK assassination and I don't mean Oswald obviously. I think he knew, by sight at least, the person he stopped and that person viewed Tippit as an immediate danger to the conspiracy.

Why would Not-Oswald being stopped by Tippit be even the slightest threat to the Conspiracy?

Tippit, rather like Oswald, was beginning to realise that events had spiralled out of control and sensed a danger to himself. Both men were killed/arrested within an hour of each other reaching for a weapon. Tippit's stopping of the pedestrian was an attempt to regain some control over events, an action which was not welcomed.

If Tippit sensed a danger to himself, at a minimum he would have drawn his gun. And there is no reason to assume that the shooter wasn't Oswald.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I’d just like to make the very obvious comment that there’s nothing wrong with considering that the most obvious option might actually have been the truth. We know that Oswald left his rooming house and ended up in the cinema. We know that the location of Tippit’s murder was on that route. Oswald left the rooming house at, let’s say 1.00. He is arrested at 1.50. Tippit is killed at around 1.15. Approximations but close ones.

So….while Oswald is walking a route someone is murdered on that route at around the time that Oswald would have passed the murder location by someone that a pile of witnesses identify as Oswald. Then the gun that Oswald pulled when he was arrested turned out to have been the one that was used to kill the man.

This particular episode is hardly the Wallace Case is it? How much more obvious could it be?

[cobalt]

So why did Tippit stop? Well, we know his behaviour was reportedly erratic around this time.

(Cobalt)

There are claims that Tippit's behavior was erratic around this time. I have yet to see an explanation for this alleged behavior. (Fiver)

You and me both. Or why Tippit was such a well known in Oak Cliff he might have stood for election to the local council.

Tippit is killed at around 1.15. Approximations but close ones.

(HS)

Not according to star Witness Helen Markham or various others who time the killing at least 5 minutes earlier. This is approximate for sure, but completely demolishes the notion that Oswald walked from his rooming house. And it invites the great unanswered question: where was Oswald going, and who was he hoping to meet?

[Fiver]

The Laws of Physics and Geometry do not change. However Technology does advance. Digital Twin is a new Technology and has proven the single bullet alignments are wrong.

Knott Laboratories is assuming that the shot hit at frame 225, where the Zapruder film shows JFK was hit some time before frame 224. Zapruder frame 225 is significantly different from the way Knott Labs portrays frame 225, turning Connally's head and body farther to the left than the Zapruder film shows.

If Connally was positioned where Knott Labs places him, then JFK must have shot Connally with an invisible gun.

[Fiver]

There then follows a list of strawmen, ripe for burning.

None of Herlock's points were straw men.

It has been pointed out on numerous occasions that the lone gunman theory is a figment of the WC imagination and no more.

It has been claimed that the lone gunman theory is wrong, but so far the ballistics, acoustics, fingerprint, photographic, and x-ray evidence support the theory.

The assassins in Dealey Plaza set out to kill the POTUS and they succeeded. Why on earth would they care about photographs of the Grassy Knoll or direction of bullets? All they needed was a link to Cuba (Oswald) and a rifle on the 6th floor.

If a Conspiracy wanted to frame a lone nut, they would care quite a bit about photographs and the direction of bullets. That's the position of any Conspiracist who claims that the evidence was faked.

johnson partly scuppered their plans by steering the lone gunman theory which, in its WC form, depoliticised the crime.

So a Conspiracy that risked their lives to murder a President and frame Cuba did nothing when LBJ threw that all away by refusing to blame Cuba?

[Patrick Differ]

Trying to discredit Knott based on a Zapruder Frame st 18.5 frames per second is absurd. But is shows how far the WC apologists will go to defend it.

There is a second laser scan company that proved what Knott did. Thats called repeatability.

Kennedy and Connally were both at different angles from the 6th Floor windows. Its not hard to understand.

[cobalt]

None of Herlock's points were straw men.

They were called 'strawmen' by me since they assumed that a conspiracy was focused on 'framing' a lone gunman. This is also a misapprehension Fiver labours under. I pointed out that the Lone Gunman theory was a product of the Warren Commission.

If a Conspiracy wanted to frame a lone nut, they would care quite a bit about photographs and the direction of bullets. That's the position of any Conspiracist who claims that the evidence was faked.

I know there are various CT positions but that is not one I subscribe to. They wanted Oswald in the frame obviously but smearing a cell of fellow travelling pro-Castro fanatics would have suited their purpose better. The basic purpose of the conspiracy was to assassinate the POTUS and cannot be described as anything other than successful in that respect. Once power had been transferred, which it was within a couple of hours and without military of popular opposition, then the events surrounding the assassination could be controlled.

So a Conspiracy that risked their lives to murder a President and frame Cuba did nothing when LBJ threw that all away by refusing to blame Cuba?

Assassinating two Presidents within six months might have aroused some suspicion. The Cuban elements within the conspiracy were given no more than mere revenge but maybe that helped, given their sense of betrayal over the Bay of Pigs and the Missile Crisis. The military would have been uneasy about confronting the USSR over the agreement not to invade Cuba so could accept escalation in Vietnam as a compromise. The Texan oligarchs got their man in the White House and if they were unhappy about LBJ's social policies could at least pocket their tax concessions and benefit from weapons manufacturing.
When LBJ failed to calm the social unrest within the USA he realised his time was up. Better to retire than open himself up to what was being enacted upon RFK and MLK in 1968. So he did.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Trying to discredit Knott based on a Zapruder Frame st 18.5 frames per second is absurd. But is shows how far the WC apologists will go to defend it.

There is a second laser scan company that proved what Knott did. Thats called repeatability.

Kennedy and Connally were both at different angles from the 6th Floor windows. Its not hard to understand.

And what about the part of the Zapruder film which shows the head shot and 100% proves that there was no back of the head wound?

What about the pathologists who confirmed the findings of Humes, Boswell and Finck? What about the experts that confirmed that the Zapruder film hadn’t been tampered with? What about the experts that confirmed that the x-rays and photographed were entirely genuine and hadn’t been interfered with? What about the experts that said that Oswald’s gun fired the cartridges and that the bullets matched the rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons?

All the experts that prove that Oswald killed Kennedy are all crooks or massively incompetent and it’s ok to say that. But those on the other side who cast doubts on the above findings are being ‘absurd.’

Can you really not see cherrypicking Patrick. We could do exactly what conspiracy theorists do and say ‘if tests results don’t conform to the version of events that support a lone gunman killing then those results are fakes and forgeries.’ Wouldn’t that be fair?

[Patrick Differ]

Herlock you and Fiver make a good tag team. The Single Bullet is not about the Head wound.

Humes unfortunately did not trace the bullet from back to front so that was a mistake regarding the single bullet.

Roswell and Fink complained that they left too many steps out. The Parkland Doctors had only 20 minutes with Kennedy and were in life saving technique mode. Still, they saw many gunshot wounds before and made an initial assessment.

Humes testimony used sketches, according to his own words, that were not based on autopsy photos or xrays because they were not granted access.

Did Parkland have enough time with the body ? Of course, Kennedy was DOA.
Did Bethesda do a thourough job? Not according to the House Select Committee and not according to the Bethesda Doctors themselves- they were pressured? Humes said he felt pressured and Boswell complained of cutting corners.

In terms of experts- its classic legalize- you have yours and we have ours. As technology advances so could that expertise.

As Warren Commission Supporters ( Herlock, Fiver) you are asking me to support what the government states is true. Beyond a reasonable doubt.

However, in the USA you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Oswald in this case was assassinated by ( another lone nut) before he could mount a defense.

Was there reasonable doubt? The Single Bullet, shot location, putting Oswald in the 6th floor, the trajectories and so on...

Is there a smoking gun somewhere that proves Oswalds innocence? Who knows.

Everytime the government is questioned they say the same thing...It's the Conspiracy Theorists again...predictable

[Herlock Sholmes]

Was there reasonable doubt? The Single Bullet, shot location, putting Oswald in the 6th floor, the trajectories and so on...

No. No doubt at all. It was categorically Oswald alone. The most obviously guilty man in the history of crime.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Roswell and Fink complained that they left too many steps out. The Parkland Doctors had only 20 minutes with Kennedy and were in life saving technique mode. Still, they saw many gunshot wounds before and made an initial assessment.

Nice soft shoe shuffle there Patrick.

The Parkland doctors had only 22 minutes.
They were in life saving mode.

I’ll add..

That Kennedy was actually lying on the area where they claimed to have seen a wound.
That most of these doctors weren’t around the head area.
That they were largely inexperienced.

Now, the reasoned deduction from that would be that this hardly made them ideal witnesses. But no, you twist it to…they still saw…

No, they were mistaken. Why were they infallible and yet there were doctors there who disagreed…why were those fewer doctors not correct?

In the real world those few doctors were clearly the ones who got it right because their opinion was confirmed by the Zapruder film, the autopsy photos, the x-rays, and 17 pathologists.

[Herlock Sholmes]

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As Warren Commission Supporters ( Herlock, Fiver) you are asking me to support what the government states is true. Beyond a reasonable doubt.

No, beyond ANY doubt.