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  • Originally posted by Ben View Post
    ...had a bolt hole situated in very close proximity to the latest such atrocity...
    Unlike that which holds Frankenstein's head to his shoulders?

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    • They would probably be equally as stinky, Scott!

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      • Originally posted by Ben View Post
        Since the author addressed the question of Hutchinson’s potential culpability in the McKenzie murder specifically, I thought it worth considering the location of his recorded residence in 1888 - the Victoria Home on the corner of Wentworth and Commercial Streets - in relation to the discovery of the body in Castle Alley. Suffice it to say that the Home was located a mere stone’s throw away from the alley in question, and although the murder itself was committed nearer the southern end of the short passage, it appears more than likely that a hypothetical Victoria Home-based murderer, fleeing the scene, had the option of a sneaky cut-through to the rear entrance to the building, thus accounting for Sargent Badham’s failure to notice anyone emerging from the Wentworth Street end.

        I’m indebted to “Lechmere” for posting the following image on another thread:



        if the killer happened to live in the home - along with 500 others on a nightly basis - it seems he had the option of bolting right into Chess Court, avoiding Badham stationed at the northern end of Old Castle Street, and making his way through open courtyards to what appears to have been an alternative entrance to the building. Unfortunately, the map in question does not indicate the presence of doors within walls or fences, and we have no means of determining if a solid wall separated Chess Court from the yard directly adjacent to the rear of the Victoria Home, but this seems unlikely considering that the vast amount of waste generated by the home necessitated a large storage area, conveniently situated for ease of collection by the bin men, and our location fits the bill very admirably in that regard.

        In light of the forgoing, it may or may not be a coincidence that the man who gave a suspicious account of his activity in relation to the previous mutilation murder of a prostitute had a bolt hole situated in very close proximity to the latest such atrocity; a bolt-hole to which he could conceivably have fled in under two minutes following the murder of Alice McKenzie.

        All the best,
        Ben
        Interesting. Thanks Ben! I wonder if the close proximity to where Hutch lived had anything to do with the "weak" manner in which Mckenzie was cut, or in his leaving/murders ending or had to do with him losing it mentally. Or all the above?
        "Is all that we see or seem
        but a dream within a dream?"

        -Edgar Allan Poe


        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

        -Frederick G. Abberline

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        • Originally posted by hanway3 View Post
          Does anyone know when Ripperologist 146 will be fully published?
          I look forward to downloading and reading the rest of the magazine with interest.
          It should be out Friday night/Saturday morning I think.

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          • Good news!

            Originally posted by PaulB View Post
            It should be out Friday night/Saturday morning I think.
            Hurray! Something to read over the weekend! Thank you!
            Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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            Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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            • Originally posted by PaulB View Post
              It should be out Friday night/Saturday morning I think.
              Paul Begg is in the House!!

              Thank you sir, look forward to reading it!

              If I may be so bold-whats your take on Aussie George article?
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • Just my 2cents worth.

                Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
                If anyone is wondering about this article in Ripperologist 146 which we are offering as a preview of what the total issue has to offer, you can download "Terror Australis: Whatever Happened to George Hutchinson" by Stephen Senise here:



                Best regards

                Chris
                Awesome, I always thought George Hutchinson was just a dirty perv pestering Mary Kelly so she would put out just to get rid of him. However, it would make perfect sense for Hutch The Ripper to try to throw the Police off by coming forward as a witness and giving a false description to the Police.

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                • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                  Paul Begg is in the House!!

                  Thank you sir, look forward to reading it!

                  If I may be so bold-whats your take on Aussie George article?
                  To be honest I haven't had much time to read and digest it. The last couple of months have been full of long books to read and review, including Bruce Robinson's 800-page tome. Once my reviews are written and finished, I'll be able to settle back and give my attention to the Rip's articles.

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                  • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                    Paul Begg is in the House!!

                    Thank you sir, look forward to reading it!

                    If I may be so bold-whats your take on Aussie George article?
                    To be honest I haven't had much time to read and digest it. The last couple of months have been full of long books to read and review, including Bruce Robinson's 800-page tome. One my reviews are written and finished, I'll be able to settle back and give my attention to the Rip's articles.

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                    • Originally posted by PaulB View Post
                      To be honest I haven't had much time to read and digest it. The last couple of months have been full of long books to read and review, including Bruce Robinson's 800-page tome. One my reviews are written and finished, I'll be able to settle back and give my attention to the Rip's articles.
                      Thanks!!
                      "Is all that we see or seem
                      but a dream within a dream?"

                      -Edgar Allan Poe


                      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                      -Frederick G. Abberline

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                      • Originally posted by Semper_Eadem View Post
                        Awesome, I always thought George Hutchinson was just a dirty perv pestering Mary Kelly so she would put out just to get rid of him. However, it would make perfect sense for Hutch The Ripper to try to throw the Police off by coming forward as a witness and giving a false description to the Police.
                        Except for the fact the police weren't even looking for him (Duh!)
                        Regards, Jon S.

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                        • Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
                          Except for the fact the police weren't even looking for him (Duh!)
                          Now, now you should of read the article. This is a quote directly from the article.

                          This is not dissimilar to George Hutchinson, who came forward belatedly after inquest testimony by Sarah Lewis
                          compromised his presence outside Miller’s Court in the early morning hours before canonical fifth victim Mary
                          Kelly was murdered there.


                          Perhaps someone else also saw George Hutchinson out and around Miller's Court, someone who knew him. Perhaps Ripper Hutch was afraid that person would come forward so he goes to the police first. Maybe he was even more afraid so he fled the country.

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                          • Thanks for the update, Paul. I look forward to the finished article.

                            I wonder if the close proximity to where Hutch lived had anything to do with the "weak" manner in which Mckenzie was cut, or in his leaving/murders ending or had to do with him losing it mentally. Or all the above?
                            Good questions(s), Abby. Both options seem viable to me.

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                            • Originally posted by Semper_Eadem View Post
                              Now, now you should of read the article. This is a quote directly from the article.

                              This is not dissimilar to George Hutchinson, who came forward belatedly after inquest testimony by Sarah Lewis
                              compromised his presence outside Miller’s Court in the early morning hours before canonical fifth victim Mary
                              Kelly was murdered there.


                              Perhaps someone else also saw George Hutchinson out and around Miller's Court, someone who knew him. Perhaps Ripper Hutch was afraid that person would come forward so he goes to the police first. Maybe he was even more afraid so he fled the country.
                              The article merely provides modern opinion, we have no indication the police were looking for the loiterer at the time of the murder, and certainly no indication that they had the slightest clue who the loiterer was.
                              George Hutchinson was not even part of the story until he came forward, so its another case of "cart before the horse" to suggest he came forward to save himself.
                              Such a move will actually promote the opposite result.

                              If Hutchinson's story did anything, it only took the focus off the Cox suspect (Blotchy), however momentarily.
                              Regards, Jon S.

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                              • Perhaps someone else also saw George Hutchinson out and around Miller's Court, someone who knew him. Perhaps Ripper Hutch was afraid that person would come forward so he goes to the police first. Maybe he was even more afraid so he fled the country.
                                Garry reasoned along the same lines in his ebook, Semplar, which you might find of interest:

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