Ripperologist 146 - October 2015

[Abby Normal]

A George Hutchinson was aquitted on 16th June 1873 in Clerkenwell for Larceny from a ship and receiving. Cant seem to find anything more on this...

Pat......

Hi Pat
Which would make Aussie George about 12/13 years old at the time. Interesting. Does it mention age in your source? or does the young age of Aussie George at the time rule him out?

[SirJohnFalstaff]

re: THE PICK-UP SHTICK

I really liked this line of thought.

My only problem, with setting a rendez-vous is the double-event, or even if Stride is not considered a victim, the Eddowes murder.

To give her a rdv in Mitre Square (or around) doesn't make sense. Especially since she was just recently back to London, and spent the evening drunk in a police station.

It does work well with Stride, though.

[Paddy]

Hutchinson?

A George Hutchinson was aquitted on 16th June 1873 in Clerkenwell for Larceny from a ship and receiving. Cant seem to find anything more on this...

Pat......

[AdamNeilWood]

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Ripperologist 146: October 2015
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Contents include:

EDITORIAL: ‘UNFORTUNATES’ AND BĘTES NOIRS
by Christopher T George

TERROR AUSTRALIS: WHATEVER HAPPENED TO
GEORGE HUTCHINSON?
by Stephen Senise

AN UNGOVERNED PASSION:
JOURNALISTIC CONSTRUCTIONS OF MARY PEARCEY
AND THE HAMPSTEAD TRAGEDY
by Sarah Beth Hopton

THE PICK-UP SHTICK
by Scott Nelson and Walter Mosley

THE HOUND OF DEATH: FRANCIS THOMPSON
AND THE WHITECHAPEL MURDERS
by Richard Patterson

DEATH IN THE COLLIERY
by Paul Williams

FROM THE CASEBOOKS OF A MURDER HOUSE DETECTIVE
by Jan Bondeson

A FATAL AFFINITY: CHAPTER FOUR
Nina and Howard Brown

VICTORIAN FICTION:
THE THRONE OF THE THOUSAND TERRORS
by William Le Queux

REVIEWS They All Love Jack and more!

[Semper_Eadem]

Garry reasoned along the same lines in his ebook, Semplar, which you might find of interest:

http://www.casebook.org/ripper_media...wroe_full.html

That was what I was thinking that he might of been spooked. Hutchinson coming forward if he was or wasn't the killer doesn't make much sense on the face of it but there might have been contributing factors that we just do not know of..

[Sally]

Hutchinson came forward very soon after the public airing of Sarah Lewis's sighting of the "loiterer", indicating that he may have recognised himself as the loiterer and fabricated an account with the intention of superficially legitimising his "loitering" presense

No doubt.

No Astrakhan Man either.

Aw Snap! There goes Isaacs' [cough] claim to fame.

[Abby Normal]

Hutchinson came forward very soon after the public airing of Sarah Lewis's sighting of the "loiterer", indicating that he may have recognised himself as the loiterer and fabricated an account with the intention of superficially legitimising his "loitering" presense. It would indeed have been a case of "cart before the horse", but as criminologist John Douglas points out:

"...some killers — the more organized or premeditated type — sometimes even inject themselves into the police investigation to provide bogus information. They do it for different reasons. They may want to find out where the investigation is headed or look for cues that it’s progressing along nicely because, naturally, they’re concerned about that.

They may go to the police in order to beat them to the punch, just in case someone may have seen them or provided a description of their car. This way, if their names pop up later, they can come back and say, “Oh, wait a minute, I went to you guys a month ago. I was cooperative.”

and there you have it. Thanks for posting it Ben!

[Ben]

Hutchinson came forward very soon after the public airing of Sarah Lewis's sighting of the "loiterer", indicating that he may have recognised himself as the loiterer and fabricated an account with the intention of superficially legitimising his "loitering" presense. It would indeed have been a case of "cart before the horse", but as criminologist John Douglas points out:

"...some killers — the more organized or premeditated type — sometimes even inject themselves into the police investigation to provide bogus information. They do it for different reasons. They may want to find out where the investigation is headed or look for cues that it’s progressing along nicely because, naturally, they’re concerned about that.

They may go to the police in order to beat them to the punch, just in case someone may have seen them or provided a description of their car. This way, if their names pop up later, they can come back and say, “Oh, wait a minute, I went to you guys a month ago. I was cooperative.”

[Ben]

Perhaps someone else also saw George Hutchinson out and around Miller's Court, someone who knew him. Perhaps Ripper Hutch was afraid that person would come forward so he goes to the police first. Maybe he was even more afraid so he fled the country.

Garry reasoned along the same lines in his ebook, Semplar, which you might find of interest:

http://www.casebook.org/ripper_media/book_reviews/non-fiction/garrywroe_full.html

[Wickerman]

Now, now you should of read the article. This is a quote directly from the article.

This is not dissimilar to George Hutchinson, who came forward belatedly after inquest testimony by Sarah Lewis
compromised his presence outside Miller’s Court in the early morning hours before canonical fifth victim Mary
Kelly was murdered there.

Perhaps someone else also saw George Hutchinson out and around Miller's Court, someone who knew him. Perhaps Ripper Hutch was afraid that person would come forward so he goes to the police first. Maybe he was even more afraid so he fled the country.

The article merely provides modern opinion, we have no indication the police were looking for the loiterer at the time of the murder, and certainly no indication that they had the slightest clue who the loiterer was.
George Hutchinson was not even part of the story until he came forward, so its another case of "cart before the horse" to suggest he came forward to save himself.
Such a move will actually promote the opposite result.

If Hutchinson's story did anything, it only took the focus off the Cox suspect (Blotchy), however momentarily.

[Ben]

Thanks for the update, Paul. I look forward to the finished article.

I wonder if the close proximity to where Hutch lived had anything to do with the "weak" manner in which Mckenzie was cut, or in his leaving/murders ending or had to do with him losing it mentally. Or all the above?

Good questions(s), Abby. Both options seem viable to me.

[Semper_Eadem]

Except for the fact the police weren't even looking for him (Duh!)

Now, now you should of read the article. This is a quote directly from the article.

This is not dissimilar to George Hutchinson, who came forward belatedly after inquest testimony by Sarah Lewis
compromised his presence outside Miller’s Court in the early morning hours before canonical fifth victim Mary
Kelly was murdered there.

Perhaps someone else also saw George Hutchinson out and around Miller's Court, someone who knew him. Perhaps Ripper Hutch was afraid that person would come forward so he goes to the police first. Maybe he was even more afraid so he fled the country.

[Wickerman]

Awesome, I always thought George Hutchinson was just a dirty perv pestering Mary Kelly so she would put out just to get rid of him. However, it would make perfect sense for Hutch The Ripper to try to throw the Police off by coming forward as a witness and giving a false description to the Police.

Except for the fact the police weren't even looking for him (Duh!)

[Abby Normal]

To be honest I haven't had much time to read and digest it. The last couple of months have been full of long books to read and review, including Bruce Robinson's 800-page tome. One my reviews are written and finished, I'll be able to settle back and give my attention to the Rip's articles.

Thanks!!

[PaulB]

Paul Begg is in the House!!

Thank you sir, look forward to reading it!

If I may be so bold-whats your take on Aussie George article?

To be honest I haven't had much time to read and digest it. The last couple of months have been full of long books to read and review, including Bruce Robinson's 800-page tome. One my reviews are written and finished, I'll be able to settle back and give my attention to the Rip's articles.