Ripperologist 127: August 2012

[Simon Wood]

Hi Monty,

I agree. Thought-provoking indeed. Hopefully, Trevor's article will encourage us to reappraise the whole Tumblety incident.

There's a fascinating story in there somewhere.

Regards,

Simon

[Monty]

Hi Rob,

There's no need for an apology, but thank you. I appreciate it.

Don Rumbelow was extremely generous with his time and advice during my 1976 researches, but as in those days there were few opportunities to publish such material he beat me to it in the reprint of The Complete Jack the Ripper, by which time he had independently researched the subject. My article in Bloodhound appeared a few years later—1987 or 1988.

Anyway, it's doesn't really matter who was first. The important thing is that people got to be made aware of the true facts behind this nonsensical but compelling Ripper theory.

Just as a point of general interest, the Tumblety article is all Trevor's work. He sent it to me for comment and all I really did was correct a few errors and spelling mistakes and toss in generous handfuls of commas, semi-colons and full stops for, as posters will no doubt be aware, punctuation is not Trevor's strong point.

I hope it helped.

Regards,

Simon

Indeed Simon,

Not Trevors strength at all.

I will add that Trevors article is thought provoking.

Monty

[Monty]

Dave,

Some will say its exactly worthy of my usual standards.

I said it was a good piece, what more do you want?....let's not try and make me run before I can walk.

Monty

[Simon Wood]

Hi Rob,

There's no need for an apology, but thank you. I appreciate it.

Don Rumbelow was extremely generous with his time and advice during my 1976 researches, but as in those days there were few opportunities to publish such material he beat me to it in the reprint of The Complete Jack the Ripper, by which time he had independently researched the subject. My article in Bloodhound appeared a few years later—1987 or 1988.

Anyway, it's doesn't really matter who was first. The important thing is that people got to be made aware of the true facts behind this nonsensical but compelling Ripper theory.

Just as a point of general interest, the Tumblety article is all Trevor's work. He sent it to me for comment and all I really did was correct a few errors and spelling mistakes and toss in generous handfuls of commas, semi-colons and full stops for, as posters will no doubt be aware, punctuation is not Trevor's strong point.

I hope it helped.

Regards,

Simon

[Cogidubnus]

Then again, one was written by Simon, whereas the other..

I'm sorry Monty...I really do respect your part in this mystery, but I don't think that particular unduly dismissive comment's worthy of your usual standards...

All the very best

Dave

[Monty]

The Tumbelty article is by no way a comparison to Simons Royal Conspiracy stuff.

One is a detailed decimation, tother is speculation and interpretation with nothing of real fact involved.

Then again, one was written by Simon, whereas the other....


Jenni,

Thanks for that.

Monty

[Phil Carter]

Hi Rob,

1976 as I recall.

A visit to the Bancroft Street Library will confirm.

Regards,

Simon

Hello Simon,

If I recall correctly you were the first to research, find and confront Mr Stephen Knight with this material were you not?
(edit. As I apparently havent learned more than Rob has forgotten, I may have this 'tits up'. Aplogies if so.)

Best wishes

Phil

[Jenni Shelden]

My experience with the City Police Jenni is that they pride themselves on the idea they are superior to the Met, a friendly competition. And I'm sure the Met feel the same.

So yes, they would have done what they felt best and if it means getting one up on the Met then that's an added incentive.

Monty

Hi Neil,

and IMHO makes an extra tick (not that one was needed) for your find

Jenni

[Rob Clack]

Hi Rob,

1976 as I recall.

A visit to the Bancroft Street Library will confirm.

Regards,

Simon

Hi Simon,

If it was as early as that I owe you an apology. My understanding is Don Rumbelow 1981 edition of his book which I read about 1984 demolished the Royal Conspiracy first and then you published your research in 1988(ish?) in Bloodhound. And I am going by published accounts. Ones that I am aware of.

Regards

Rob

[Rob Clack]

And yet you never answer the points put to you.

Rob

[Simon Wood]

Hi Rob,

1976 as I recall.

A visit to the Bancroft Street Library will confirm.

Regards,

Simon

[Phil Carter]

Well, my knowledge has increased over the past 28 years I have been involved in this case and I would like to think I have moved the case forward myself with my small contribution. Unfortunetly some people are hell bent or going backwards.



Thank you, but it couldn't have been much of an insult otherwise you would have had it removed by now. And the Royal Conspiracy tale went tits up long before Simon got involved. And I have forgotten more about the case then you have even learned.

Rob

Woe, woe and thrice woe. Sad to say you are unable to wash any of the men you mentioned out of your hair. Trevor's piece is a responsible article. Live with it. Mike Hawley can, and he's a Dr.t specialist. Simon Wood has more years of quality research in this before you even started. Simon was THE person that disproved the Royal Conspiracy tale through his finding of material nobody had ever seen before.
As regards your personal jibes at me, they are simply highlighted to show your effervecent, magnetic and jovial personality.

Carry on regardless. Please do. After all, it enhances your verbal reputation no end.

[Rob Clack]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I am glad I am not one of those then

Don't be to sure.

Hi Rob,

"And the Royal Conspiracy tale went tits up long before Simon got involved."

Tower Hamlets Local History Library and Archives
Bancroft Library
277 Bancroft Road
London E1 4DQ

Stock number L. 8383. Class number, 341.

Regards,

Simon

Thank you Simon, and the date of your material.

Regards

Rob

[Simon Wood]

Hi Rob,

"And the Royal Conspiracy tale went tits up long before Simon got involved."

Tower Hamlets Local History Library and Archives
Bancroft Library
277 Bancroft Road
London E1 4DQ

Stock number L. 8383. Class number, 341.

Regards,

Simon

[Trevor Marriott]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Well, my knowledge has increased over the past 28 years I have been involved in this case and I would like to think I have moved the case forward myself with my small contribution. Unfortunetly some people are hell bent or going backwards.

I am glad I am not one of those then

Thank you, but it couldn't have been much of an insult otherwise you would have had it removed by now. And the Royal Conspiracy tale went tits up long before Simon got involved. And I have forgotten more about the case then you have even learned.

Rob