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I just noticed this books forums column and to be fair I just asked this question in the Prince Albert Victor column but thought to ask here to see if any with more knowledge of the books and authors may know. In college I did a report on JtR and one of the books I used said that it used documents that "may disappear" so it included them in the book...And pointed to Prince Albert Victor being the one that did the murders but that, I wanna say that he was mentioned as an author at the time, wrote the Ripper letters. I can't recall the name of that book; can someone help on this?
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I don't think I have ever heard the notion that the Prince wrote Jack the Ripper. I have heard he was friends with Sackett, who is suspected both of being the murderer, and also of not being the murderer but has written letters purporting to be from Jack.Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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No no, I mean that in this book the Prince did the murders and someone else wrote the letters, and I THINK I recall it saying that the person that wrote the letters was an author. This book had a lot of examples of original documents of the time within its pages..Originally posted by Pcdunn View PostComment
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Clark, when were you in college?
There's not an overabundance of books, if you go back a bit, it eliminates more and narrows down the potential books.
Was it Knight?Thems the Vagaries.....Comment
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It might have been Murder and Madness: The Secret Life Of Jack The Ripper by David Abrahamsen. It’s been years since I read it but it claimed that Prince Eddie and JK Stephen were guilty. Stephen was a poet so it could be the book you’re talking about Clark.
Regards
Sir Herlock Sholmes.
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The main biography of PAV that I'm aware of is: "Clarence; The life of HRH The Duke of Clarence and Avondale." by Michael Harrison.Originally posted by clark2710 View PostComment
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Here's the list of main references re PAV, as listed by Wikipedia.- Aronson, Theo (1994). Prince Eddy and the Homosexual Underworld. London: John Murray. ISBN 0-7195-5278-8.
- Bradford, Sarah (1989). King George VI. London: Weidenfeld & Nicolson. ISBN 0-297-79667-4.
- Cadbury, Deborah (2017). Queen Victoria's Matchmaking. London: Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 978-140-8852-828.
- Cook, Andrew (2006). Prince Eddy: The King Britain Never Had. Stroud, Gloucestershire: Tempus Publishing Ltd. ISBN 0-7524-3410-1.
- Cornwell, Patricia (2003). Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper Case Closed. London: Time Warner Paperbacks. ISBN 0-7515-3359-9.
- Duff, David (1980). Alexandra: Princess and Queen. London: Collins. ISBN 0-00-216667-4.
- Harrison, Michael (1972). Clarence: The life of H.R.H. the Duke of Clarence and Avondale (1864–1892). London and New York: W. H. Allen. ISBN 0-491-00722-1.
- Hyde, H. Montgomery (1970). The Other Love: An Historical and Contemporary Survey of Homosexuality in Britain. London: Heinemann. ISBN 0-434-35902-5.
- Hyde, H. Montgomery (1976). The Cleveland Street Scandal. London: W. H. Allen. ISBN 0-491-01995-5.
- Knight, Stephen (1976). Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution. New York: McKay. ISBN 0-679-50711-6.
- Lees-Milne, James (1981). Harold Nicolson: A Biography. Volume 2: 1930–1968 London: Chatto & Windus. ISBN 0-7011-2602-7.
- Marriott, Trevor (2005). Jack the Ripper: The 21st Century Investigation. London: John Blake. ISBN 1-84454-103-7.
- McDonald, Deborah (2007). The Prince, His Tutor and the Ripper. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland and Co. ISBN 978-0-7864-3018-5.
- Meikle, Denis (2002). Jack the Ripper: The Murders and the Movies. Richmond, Surrey: Reynolds and Hearn Ltd. ISBN 1-903111-32-3.
- Neubecker, Ottfried (1976). Heraldry: sources, symbols and meaning. New York: McGraw-Hill. ISBN 0-07-046308-5.
- Nicolson, Harold (1952). King George the Fifth: His Life and Reign. London: Constable.
- Pope-Hennessy, James (1959). Queen Mary: 1867–1953. London: George Allen and Unwin Ltd.
- Pope-Hennessy, James; Vickers, Hugo (ed.) (2018). The Quest For Queen Mary. London: Zulieka.
- Rumbelow, Donald (2004). The Complete Jack the Ripper: Fully Revised and Updated Penguin Books. ISBN 0-14-017395-1.
- Van der Kiste, John (September 2004; online edition January 2008). "Albert Victor, Prince, duke of Clarence and Avondale (1864–1892)". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press. Accessed 1 May 2010. (Subscription required)
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Why is Trevor’s book on the list? It must have been a very brief reference. I think that if we listed every ripper book that mentioned PAV it would be a pretty long list.
Two more where PAV played a leading part.
Prince Jack by Frank Spiering
The Ripper And The Royals by Melvyn Fairclough.Regards
Sir Herlock Sholmes.
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Yeah Herlock, I wondered about Trevor's inclusion on the list.Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
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Prince Jack, The True Story of Jack the Ripper by Frank Spiering, 1978, Doubleday & Company (hardcover); 1980, Jove Publications Inc. (paperback).
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Oh, okay, thank you for clarifying your original request. I think any books espousing PAV as the Ripper are very dubious. Knight's book was popular for a while, but his informants were strange, to say the least.Originally posted by clark2710 View Post
The comment about using documents that might vanish soon is probably a reference to the Royal "conspiracy" of a cover-up. I think it would have to be a huge conspiracy if it existed.Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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