Hi everyone. While I myself don't put much stock in any suspect-based Ripper books (like many of you I prefer fact-based research books on the subject), I was wondering if any of you consider any books that put forward a suspect to not be so ridiculous and may even be plausible? Or, if any of you know any that you found entertaining.
Any plausible suspect books?
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Any plausible suspect books?
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David, in my view, is pretty much on the money with his suggestions. If you want to look at suspect books, the ones that I found to be at least reasonably plausible and entertaining were:
James Tully, The Secret of Prisoner 1167 (James Kelly)
Bruce Paley, JtR: The Simple Truth (Joseph Barnett)
William Beadle, JtR: Anatomy of a Myth (William Bury)
Bob Hinton, From Hell: The JtR Mystery (George Hutchinson), and
Martin Fido, The Crimes, Detection and Death of JtR (Nathan Kaminsky)
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I see. Thank you.
What about R. Michael Gordon's books on Klosowski/Chapman?I won't make any deals. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,de-briefed, or numbered!
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Well, Gordon is certainly enthusiastic about his subject but I find his books neither plausible nor very readable.
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Originally posted by The Grave Maurice View PostDavid, in my view, is pretty much on the money with his suggestions. If you want to look at suspect books, the ones that I found to be at least reasonably plausible and entertaining were:
James Tully, The Secret of Prisoner 1167 (James Kelly)
Bruce Paley, JtR: The Simple Truth (Joseph Barnett)
William Beadle, JtR: Anatomy of a Myth (William Bury)
Bob Hinton, From Hell: The JtR Mystery (George Hutchinson), and
Martin Fido, The Crimes, Detection and Death of JtR (Nathan Kaminsky)
I share your taste, and indeed had Tully and Beadle in mind, too. I haven't read Martin Fido's essay, and unfortunately read Bob Hinton only once, years ago.
I may find Paley interesting, but his arguments lookseem particularly weak.
In fact, the more I read a suspect-based book, the less I find it plausible.
They have a limited life expectancy. That makes them lovable, whatever their flaws...
Must also say I appreciate Ap Wolf portrait of Cutbush, although, imo, it hasn't surpassed the Sun articles - quite impressive and atmospheric, with something of a B-movie.
Amitiés GM and JTRS,
DavidLast edited by DVV; 01-07-2010, 07:38 PM.
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Actually, I may have been a little too hard on Gordon. His first book, Alias Jack the Ripper: Beyond the Usual Whitechapel Suspects, isn't all that bad. It's in his later books that his arguments become rather thin and repetitious.
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I would highly recommend The Secret of Prisoner 1167 by James Tully and I also find Gordon's books on Klosowski very good.
The ones I didn't find very convincing was Evans/Gainey's Tumblety book, the Lewis Carroll book and Patsy's Sickert book. I also find any books on Barnett are always non-starters but that is just me personallyBest regards,
Adam
"They assumed Kelly was the last... they assumed wrong" - Me
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostAs far as "suspect" books go, it has to be Martin Fido and Garry Wroe for me. They are also very good reads.Kind regards, Sam Flynn
"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
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I thought Stewart and Neil's book The Lodger (or, as it is known here in the States. Jack the Ripper: First American Serial Killer) would be considered a good "suspect" book. Would everyone agree?I won't make any deals. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,de-briefed, or numbered!
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Yes I agree. And it can be used for factual research.
One of my favorites is Euan Mcpherson's The Trial of Jack the Ripper. I like the format. The first half is the story of William Bury and his wife Ellen. The second half covers the Whitechapel Murders.
RoySink the Bismark
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Yes I forgot to mention that is probably best to avoid the book whose title I share my username with!!Best regards,
Adam
"They assumed Kelly was the last... they assumed wrong" - Me
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