What is the worst Ripper book you've ever read?

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  • dantheman
    Constable
    • Feb 2016
    • 58

    #226
    "The Autobiography of Jack The Ripper" by James Carnac (or probably written by Sydney Beaman). Worst read thus far.

    Dan

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    • Pcdunn
      Superintendent
      • Dec 2014
      • 2323

      #227
      Originally posted by dantheman View Post
      "The Autobiography of Jack The Ripper" by James Carnac (or probably written by Sydney Beaman). Worst read thus far.

      Dan
      Isn't that one a novel, though? As opposed to fiction presented as fact, apparently.
      Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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      Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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      • dantheman
        Constable
        • Feb 2016
        • 58

        #228
        Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
        Isn't that one a novel, though? As opposed to fiction presented as fact, apparently.
        It probably should be listed as a novel, however I found it under the true crime section at Barnes & Noble. Amazon has it listed under "Biographies and Memoirs".

        Dan
        Last edited by dantheman; 12-17-2016, 05:21 PM.

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        • DJA
          *
          • May 2015
          • 4700

          #229
          One of Trevor's was so disappointing that I never purchased another Jack the Ripper book.

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          • The Station Cat
            Premium Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 641

            #230
            This maybe seen as a sweeping statement, but I think the worst book I've ever read on Jack the Ripper, would have to be ANY book which comes up with a theory as to who he was................

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            • PaulWilliams
              Cadet
              • May 2012
              • 44

              #231
              So many to pick from

              It is somewhat depressing that there are so many candidates. Personally I regard Uncle Jack as the worst due to the deliberate usage of false evidence.

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              • Harry D
                *
                • May 2014
                • 3360

                #232
                Has anyone read "The Killer Who Never Was" by Peter Turnbull?

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                • barnflatwyngarde
                  Inspector
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 1141

                  #233
                  Harry,
                  Y

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                  • barnflatwyngarde
                    Inspector
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 1141

                    #234
                    Harry,
                    Y


                    Oops!
                    Clumsy fingers.

                    Anyway, as I was saying......Yeah I read "The Killer Who Never Was" many years ago.

                    My recollection is that he author never got close to making any decent kind of case for his premise.
                    I also seem to recall that there were some real factual howlers in the book, although perhaps the passage of time is wrong footing me on this point.

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                    • Harry D
                      *
                      • May 2014
                      • 3360

                      #235
                      Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
                      Harry,
                      Y


                      Oops!
                      Clumsy fingers.

                      Anyway, as I was saying......Yeah I read "The Killer Who Never Was" many years ago.

                      My recollection is that he author never got close to making any decent kind of case for his premise.
                      I also seem to recall that there were some real factual howlers in the book, although perhaps the passage of time is wrong footing me on this point.
                      I only ask because I read his chapter in "The Mammoth Book of JTR" where he contests that all of the Ripper murders (yes ALL of them!) were completely unconnected. Wouldn't mind reading the book for a laugh but it's stupidly expensive on Amazon.

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                      • barnflatwyngarde
                        Inspector
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 1141

                        #236
                        Originally posted by Harry D View Post
                        I only ask because I read his chapter in "The Mammoth Book of JTR" where he contests that all of the Ripper murders (yes ALL of them!) were completely unconnected. Wouldn't mind reading the book for a laugh but it's stupidly expensive on Amazon.
                        It conjures up the image of various knife wielding psychos running around Whitechapel almost bumping into one another.

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                        • Abby Normal
                          Commissioner
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 11904

                          #237
                          Is there anything to the Carnac thing?
                          "Is all that we see or seem
                          but a dream within a dream?"

                          -Edgar Allan Poe


                          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                          -Frederick G. Abberline

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                          • Harry D
                            *
                            • May 2014
                            • 3360

                            #238
                            Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
                            It conjures up the image of various knife wielding psychos running around Whitechapel almost bumping into one another.
                            Yes, and not just any knife-wielding psychos but knife-wielding psychos with a flair for eviscerating women and removing organs. Who all strike within a few weeks of each other before disappearing into the aether.

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                            • PaulB
                              Superintendent
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2218

                              #239
                              No, Abby, not really. It's a curious document because it was found among the possessions of the author who created a much loved kid's character called Larry the Lamb and doesn't fit in with anything that's known about the man, his interests, or his work. So did Beament write it, or did someone else? If someone else, who? It's also written from the murderer's perspective and doesn't conform with the known facts, which is a little odd as one would have expected the author to make some effort to fit the facts (although much depends on the author's intent); it is nonetheless an early work of fiction, if that is what is is, written from the murderer's perspective and furthermore makes no real effort to justify himself. He kills because he likes it. There are also many curious things about the ms itself, different authors being involved, clear evidence of serious editing, and much else.

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                              • Abby Normal
                                Commissioner
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11904

                                #240
                                Originally posted by PaulB View Post
                                No, Abby, not really. It's a curious document because it was found among the possessions of the author who created a much loved kid's character called Larry the Lamb and doesn't fit in with anything that's known about the man, his interests, or his work. So did Beament write it, or did someone else? If someone else, who? It's also written from the murderer's perspective and doesn't conform with the known facts, which is a little odd as one would have expected the author to make some effort to fit the facts (although much depends on the author's intent); it is nonetheless an early work of fiction, if that is what is is, written from the murderer's perspective and furthermore makes no real effort to justify himself. He kills because he likes it. There are also many curious things about the ms itself, different authors being involved, clear evidence of serious editing, and much else.
                                Thanks Paul!
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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