A new BBC One documentary about one of the most infamous serial killers of all time.

[Joshua Rogan]

I lost heart when the presenter said Eddowes was the first victim to have an organ removed.

[Herlock Sholmes]

>I was impressed by that digital anatomy table...<<

Yes indeed, but all they did with it was to draw red lines on it, which anyone could have done with pen and paper!
Which pretty much sums up the doco for me.

True.

[Sam Flynn]

Nothing can be gleaned about the killer’’s base from the fact he struck at Millet’s Court.

Millet's Court? A seedy place if ever there was one

Also, no mention was made of the piece of clothing found in Goulston St, presumably a clue to his route home?

Yup. There were quite a few missed opportunities in this documentary, it seems.

And wasn’t Mary Kelly moved away from the wall simply because the killer was left handed?

I think it's more indicative of the fact that the killer "operated" on both sides of her face and body. Whether he was left or right handed, it would have been easier to do so after moving the body to the middle of the mattress; if he'd left her precisely where she was when he cut her throat he'd have needed to lean awkwardly over the bed.

[Writerboy]

I thought this was dreadfully pompous. “”This cold case has been blown out of the water now...”” oh please!

The leaps of logic and assumption were quite bizarre: geo-profiling based on where the murders took place failed to consider that the murder sites in this case were determined wholly by where the women were soliciting, not where the killer chose to strike. Nothing can be gleaned about the killer’’s base from the fact he struck at Millet’s Court. Also, no mention was made of the piece of clothing found in Goulston St, presumably a clue to his route home?

And wasn’t Mary Kelly moved away from the wall simply because the killer was left handed?

[drstrange169]

>I was impressed by that digital anatomy table...<<

Yes indeed, but all they did with it was to draw red lines on it, which anyone could have done with pen and paper!
Which pretty much sums up the doco for me.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Having thought about it I was unfair saying it was crap i think it should have been a 2 parter as the suspect was announced about 5 mins from the end! Suspects did need to be discussed more as well they never mentioned at all anderson,Swanson or Mcnaughten. There were some interesting things like the Holmes computer and geo profiling

I don’t think you were unfair at all Tony. It was a regurgitation. Same old. I was impressed by that digital anatomy table (or whatever it was called)

[Herlock Sholmes]

I haven’t gotten around to seeing this one yet but a friend of mine says that it’s better than the one that’s the subject of the thread. I don’t know if anyone else has seen it?

https://youtu.be/-CJMpL1qQ3E

This is part one. The other parts are available too.

[Fisherman]

Having thought about it I was unfair saying it was crap

Having just watched the docu, I am not all that upset about it.

Hope that helps.

[Tonylondon]

Having thought about it I was unfair saying it was crap i think it should have been a 2 parter as the suspect was announced about 5 mins from the end! Suspects did need to be discussed more as well they never mentioned at all anderson,Swanson or Mcnaughten. There were some interesting things like the Holmes computer and geo profiling

[MidnightIsolde_55]

I didn’t know there was a new ripper opera. I like a bit of opera but I have to admit to also being a heavy metal fan. It’s certainly surprising that no heavy metal band has yet done a ripper concept album.

There have been individual songs though.

https://youtu.be/lriWlHZAy8A

How did I just know it would be this song.
As to the documentary, I found it too surface level and glossed over facts to quickly. But guess it was only a 1 hour show.

[Inspector Reid]

Think I will catch this on iPlayer this evening, was going to record it but forgot

[richardnunweek]

I agree also that Martha. was his first. its possible there are similarities in that her killer, rather like with Chapman , Eddowes , and Kelly, moved in after these women had serviced a client. Tabram with the soldier. Chapman with Mrs Longs man, and Eddowes seen with a man of sailor appearance at Church passage, and Mary Kelly with Hutchinson's man. I suggest that 'jack' was waiting his chance, knowing that where his victim was about to service was a known safe spot.

[Herlock Sholmes]

All I can say is we've done a much better job here on Casebook and this show has just repeated what is on these boards. I only agree that Martha was the first Ripper victim. I'm still not sure about Kos- he's always going to be the ripper, just like the feminine guy always plays widow twanky.

I now have the image of Christopher Biggins stalking the East End Of London looking for victims to the occasional cry of ‘“he’s behind you’.”

[Herlock Sholmes]

Same thing

Seriously, I always thought that heavy metal was the closest thing to opera among the various genres of rock music

Couldn’t agree more Sam. There are a lot of classically trained musicians in rock/metal and vocalists with amazing vocal ranges. And of course it’s often very dramatic and yes some might say overblown.

[Busy Beaver]

All I can say is we've done a much better job here on Casebook and this show has just repeated what is on these boards. I only agree that Martha was the first Ripper victim. I'm still not sure about Kos- he's always going to be the ripper, just like the feminine guy always plays widow twanky.