Originally posted by Tom_Wescott
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On the knife bit, my point was and still is that there is no evidence that precludes a long round tip knife being used on Liz. There is with Kate. Thats all. And, Who says Liz Strides killer went out that night to kill? The murder seems spontaneous and brief. Within the evidence there remains the possibility the knives used in Dutfields and Mitre were not the same. Since its highly unlikely, in my opinion, that Liz Strides evidence indicates or suggests a Ripper style murder, 2 separate knives isnt a problem for me if thats what it was.
I think Phillips may have leaned towards Tabram as the first Tom If I recall, and so... as per the above, she would've been the "3rd".
I start with Annie as the quintessential Ripper victim, and work back and forward from her death as the "marker". One murder like Polly's is unique, a second one almost identical in manner and attack methodologies in 10 days suggests a connection by the killer. Polly appears to have kept her uterus due to the location, which is immediately revised next kill, and the organ theft completed.
I have issues with Kate a bit myself, not the least of which is the plethora of cops within yelling range....open doors in the square, windows facing the murder scene....3 cops a few streets away, I coming and going followed by a second one a minute later....
As with Mary Kelly, the wounds are not the best barometer of who killed them, but the circumstances as they are known do suggest certain non-Ripper elements.
Best regards Tom.
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