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  • Is He In The Mix?

    I’m against beginning yet another Cross-related thread and this one certainly isn’t one. So I hope that he won’t get a mention. So I’ll word this carefully:

    Does anyone think it possible, or even likely, that the ripper was someone already mentioned in the case (apart from Cross who gets enough attention elsewhere)? By that I mean as a witness or a Doctor or a Policeman or a mortuary attendant or even someone that just gets a mention.
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    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

  • #2
    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    I’m against beginning yet another Cross-related thread and this one certainly isn’t one. So I hope that he won’t get a mention. So I’ll word this carefully:

    Does anyone think it possible, or even likely, that the ripper was someone already mentioned in the case (apart from Cross who gets enough attention elsewhere)? By that I mean as a witness or a Doctor or a Policeman or a mortuary attendant or even someone that just gets a mention.
    Hmmmmm,

    I'm not suspect oriented, as you know, so perhaps my view is not so important. But, there's always a but, it is not uncommon for the offender to be in the police files. I don't, however, think any of the named suspects are particularly likely JtR's. I do, however, think the police spoke with him during their house-to-house search, but didn't recognize him as JtR. So, perhaps, his name might have been recorded as someone they spoke to, but even if so, that information is lost to us now.

    - Jeff

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    • #3
      Interesting, most days I sway to the side of a person that 'we' do not know of but the Police probably did. Then the conspiracy nut in me kicks in and believes the Police had their man after Kelly but again for one reason or another we are not 'allowed' to know.

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      • #4
        I’m always wondering if anyone in the case has left an error that we’ve have all missed but the odds have to be against it considering how deeply the case has been researched. I suppose that we’re all waiting for that “Hold on, how could X have been….etc” moment.
        Regards

        Sir Herlock Sholmes.

        “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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        • #5
          A follow on question is…is here anyone left that we haven’t considered?
          Regards

          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
            A follow on question is…is here anyone left that we haven’t considered?
            Probably 1000s of folk... we just do not know their names. The Police reports would be amazing to have. Have they all really gone missing or been destroyed, seems unlikely. I'd love a read of Mizen's notebook for starters.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
              I’m against beginning yet another Cross-related thread and this one certainly isn’t one. So I hope that he won’t get a mention. So I’ll word this carefully:

              Does anyone think it possible, or even likely, that the ripper was someone already mentioned in the case (apart from Cross who gets enough attention elsewhere)? By that I mean as a witness or a Doctor or a Policeman or a mortuary attendant or even someone that just gets a mention.
              absolutely. crow, bowyer, one of the people at berner street club, jerry dunlops suspect wildbore, who found the whitehall torso, any of the cops, mary kellys ex flemming has been mentioned before. backert was wierd dude, as was donston, pizer cant be totally ruled out. lusk or someone on the vigilance committee .
              imho i think theres a good chance his name is out there/ been mentioned.
              but no ... no one obvious. there would need to be new evidence to elevate any of these or anyone for that matter.
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                there would need to be new evidence to elevate any of these or anyone for that matter.
                If only we had something like a shawl, a watch or even a confession in like a dairy or something, that would be bloody great...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post

                  If only we had something like a shawl, a watch or even a confession in like a dairy or something, that would be bloody great...
                  I'm happy to do you a letter, if you like? Just let me know who you want to be implicated.

                  For now we see through a glass darkly, but then, face to face.
                  Now I know in part, but then shall I know even as also I am known.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

                    absolutely. crow, bowyer, one of the people at berner street club, jerry dunlops suspect wildbore, who found the whitehall torso, any of the cops, mary kellys ex flemming has been mentioned before. backert was wierd dude, as was donston, pizer cant be totally ruled out. lusk or someone on the vigilance committee .
                    imho i think theres a good chance his name is out there/ been mentioned.
                    but no ... no one obvious. there would need to be new evidence to elevate any of these or anyone for that matter.
                    oh and how could i forget Squibby!
                    "Is all that we see or seem
                    but a dream within a dream?"

                    -Edgar Allan Poe


                    "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                    quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                    -Frederick G. Abberline

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