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So here's what we are left with:
Mary Ann Cox sees Kelly go up the court and into her room with Blotchy Face who is carrying a pot of beer (likely to be just a pint that he was drinking in his own pint pot. You could do that in a pub then as now I believe, bring your own mug in.) BF may have been a casual trick she picked up. Or he may not have been a trick at all. Kelly brings him back to her room with the bed and everything, and then proceeds to serenade him for ages. This isn't something you'd do with a client, especially if you need money. If you need money, you go for high volume and fast turnaround. However Kelly was drunk, and may have just picked him up in the pub because he said he would stand her a drink or three. No suggestion of money beyond that, and Kelly feels like singing...
Lizzie Prater stands at the entrance of the court from 1.00 am on. She doesn't mention seeing Cox leave--although that may just be an oversight in the statement transcription or she may not have been asked that question since the police are obviously concentrating on Kelly. Nor apparently does she see Blotchy Face leave. And that is a question I think she would have been asked. Either way, she's in chatting to McCarthy at around 1.20 am. Doesn't hear Kelly singing. doesn't see or hear BF leaving.
Hutchinson sees Kelly at 2.00 am. She is 'spreeish' which means she's still slightly drunk. But she's much more focussed than she was earlier in the evening. She hits him up for 6d and when he doesn't have it she moves on down the line and immediately finds another customer whom she brings back with her to the court.
Sarah Lewis goes into the court at 2.30 am. She sees a short stout man in a wideawake hat looking up the court as if he was waiting for someone. (Note that Hutchinson says 'he bent down' to look Mr A in the face. So unless Mr A is a Little Person, Hutchinson is tall.)
No one apart from Kudzu sees or hears Kelly past 1.10-15 am.
And something else which I find interesting although I'm not sure where it takes us: no one in these statements intersect except possibly Lewis and Kudzu. We believe Cox, but no one else has come forward to say 'yes I saw Kelly with a blotchy-faced man in the 10 Bells/The Ringers...' Is there anything in McCarthy's statement that says 'I was as the store late and Lizzie Prater came in for a chat...' Does anyone say 'I was past the court and saw Lizzie standing there...'?
Several people noted having heard Kelly singing that night. But that was after the whole thing was over, and could just have been because they had heard that she was said to have been singing and wanted to be part of the whole thing.
The thing about the Kelly case is that there is a bunch of uncorroborated evidence and then there's Hutchinson who comes forward after the evidence was taken and so could have manufactured something. Certainly Kelly's behaviour with Blotchy Face doesn't sound like a regular hooker/trick transaction. But then later on in the evening she's all business.
It's like Cox is seeing one Kelly. Hutchinson is seeing another. Prater isn't seeing or hearing her at all. Neither is Lewis.
If you believe this, then may I suggest you look at my website 'lovely beachfront homes in Wigan for sale cheap at $1M each.' You have absolutely no basis whatsoever to make such a statement. Word of mouth would have been rampant in the LVP right after the murder and it wouldn't have died down for days if not weeks. Please don't think that Sarah Lewis kept quiet, went to the police, gave her statement and then went home and had a nice cup of tea. She would have told all her pals and they'd have told all their pals. Add that to the journos who were buzzing around the area like flies round a week-old Eccles cake and you have a situation where information is leaking like crazy. Hutchinson says he's been on the tramp and so didn't hear about the death but I find this extraordinarily difficult to believe. His statement may or may not be the real deal, but to take everything he says at face value is a mistake in my opinion. And to believe that he was 'oblivious' of Lewis's statement when you have no direct knowledge of his movements apart from his own account of them is naive at best.
Mary Ann Cox sees Kelly go up the court and into her room with Blotchy Face who is carrying a pot of beer (likely to be just a pint that he was drinking in his own pint pot. You could do that in a pub then as now I believe, bring your own mug in.) BF may have been a casual trick she picked up. Or he may not have been a trick at all. Kelly brings him back to her room with the bed and everything, and then proceeds to serenade him for ages. This isn't something you'd do with a client, especially if you need money. If you need money, you go for high volume and fast turnaround. However Kelly was drunk, and may have just picked him up in the pub because he said he would stand her a drink or three. No suggestion of money beyond that, and Kelly feels like singing...
Lizzie Prater stands at the entrance of the court from 1.00 am on. She doesn't mention seeing Cox leave--although that may just be an oversight in the statement transcription or she may not have been asked that question since the police are obviously concentrating on Kelly. Nor apparently does she see Blotchy Face leave. And that is a question I think she would have been asked. Either way, she's in chatting to McCarthy at around 1.20 am. Doesn't hear Kelly singing. doesn't see or hear BF leaving.
Hutchinson sees Kelly at 2.00 am. She is 'spreeish' which means she's still slightly drunk. But she's much more focussed than she was earlier in the evening. She hits him up for 6d and when he doesn't have it she moves on down the line and immediately finds another customer whom she brings back with her to the court.
Sarah Lewis goes into the court at 2.30 am. She sees a short stout man in a wideawake hat looking up the court as if he was waiting for someone. (Note that Hutchinson says 'he bent down' to look Mr A in the face. So unless Mr A is a Little Person, Hutchinson is tall.)
No one apart from Kudzu sees or hears Kelly past 1.10-15 am.
And something else which I find interesting although I'm not sure where it takes us: no one in these statements intersect except possibly Lewis and Kudzu. We believe Cox, but no one else has come forward to say 'yes I saw Kelly with a blotchy-faced man in the 10 Bells/The Ringers...' Is there anything in McCarthy's statement that says 'I was as the store late and Lizzie Prater came in for a chat...' Does anyone say 'I was past the court and saw Lizzie standing there...'?
Several people noted having heard Kelly singing that night. But that was after the whole thing was over, and could just have been because they had heard that she was said to have been singing and wanted to be part of the whole thing.
The thing about the Kelly case is that there is a bunch of uncorroborated evidence and then there's Hutchinson who comes forward after the evidence was taken and so could have manufactured something. Certainly Kelly's behaviour with Blotchy Face doesn't sound like a regular hooker/trick transaction. But then later on in the evening she's all business.
It's like Cox is seeing one Kelly. Hutchinson is seeing another. Prater isn't seeing or hearing her at all. Neither is Lewis.
Can anyone name the precise time that Hutchinson became aware that there was a suspect sighted by Lewis at 2:30 a.m. 9th Nov? I'm talking newspaper report here, forget word of mouth, because it would not have happened. Because up until this time he was oblivious of the man he was about to impersonate, and therefore out of the frame altogether
I won't ask you to give me a break, since you clearly aren't giving her one.
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