Chapman’s death.

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  • DJA
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    Originally posted by John G View Post


    Mrs Richardson also conceded that people frequently went into the backyard who "have no business to do so". Who were these people squatting in her backyard? Why were they there?

    [Coroner] Were the front and back doors always left open? - Yes, you can open the front and back doors of any of the houses about there. They are all let out in rooms. People are coming in or going out all the night.
    [Coroner] Did you ever see anyone in the passage? - Yes, about a month ago I heard a man on the stairs. I called Thompson, and the man said he was waiting for market.
    [Coroner] At what time was this? - Between half-past three and four o'clock. I could hear anyone going through the passage. I did not hear any one going through on Saturday morning.
    [Coroner] You heard no cries? - None. Supposing a person had gone through at half-past three, would that have attracted your attention? - Yes.
    [Coroner] You always hear people going to the back-yard? - Yes; people frequently do go through.
    [Coroner] People go there who have no business to do so? - Yes; I daresay they do.


    She is a tenant,albeit the major one and seems to mind her own business. Literally.

    Her reply to the Coroner is basically "probably" which is what daresay means.

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  • DJA
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  • DJA
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    John Richardson (recalled) produced the knife - a much-worn dessert knife - with which he had cut his boot. He added that as it was not sharp enough he had borrowed another one at the market.
    By the Jury: My mother has heard me speak of people having been in the house. She has heard them herself.
    The Coroner: I think we will detain this knife for the present.

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  • John G
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    Mrs. Richardson, recalled, said she had never missed anything, and had such confidence in her neighbours that she had left the doors of some rooms unlocked. A saw and a hammer had been taken from the cellar a long time ago. The padlock was broken open.
    [Coroner] Had you an idea at any time that a part of the house or yard was used for an immoral purpose? - Witness (emphatically): No, sir.
    Fair point, now we're getting somewhere. Now, I would argue that if the yard was used for immoral purposes she wouldn't want it to become public knowledge. By the same logic, I see no reason why John Richardson would lie about such a thing, just as there's no reason why he would lie about going down the steps.

    Mrs Richardson also conceded that people frequently went into the backyard who "have no business to do so". Who were these people squatting in her backyard? Why were they there?

    Incidentally, I'm not wedded to the idea that Chapman' s killer targeted her because she was soliciting, which she may or may not have been doing. I believe that he simply targeted women who were vulnerable: Chapman was seriously ill and undernourished, therefore not likely to be able to put up much of a struggle, and was walking the streets, by herself, in the early hours of the morning; therefore in a particularly vulnerable position.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    A blood choke takes two or three seconds.

    Thuggees have nothing to do with it. Different technique.

    No offense,but once again,you have very little grasp on these subjects.
    absolutely incorrect. i know from personal experience fighting and training in MMA that a blood choke takes 15-20 seconds to render you unconscious, and a few seconds faster if your exhausted (like from fighting in a mma match).

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  • PaulB
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    And here you have been proven wrong Mr. Begg.


    Good that you've acknowledged that.



    The Baron
    Hardly proved wrong. But if it pleases you...

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  • DJA
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    Mrs. Richardson, recalled, said she had never missed anything, and had such confidence in her neighbours that she had left the doors of some rooms unlocked. A saw and a hammer had been taken from the cellar a long time ago. The padlock was broken open.
    [Coroner] Had you an idea at any time that a part of the house or yard was used for an immoral purpose? - Witness (emphatically): No, sir.

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  • John G
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post

    Yet his mother who actually lived there refuted that in her testimony.
    No she didn't! If you still disagree, please provide evidence, because it's difficult to discuss things with people who keep making random statements unsupported by evidence.
    Last edited by John G; 09-22-2019, 10:48 AM.

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  • DJA
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    But....but,that's how people have fun

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  • John G
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post

    fify
    That's not what I said and you know it. So let's stop resorting to childish humour, shall we?

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  • DJA
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    We are down the rabbit-hole again John.
    As usual

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  • DJA
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    Originally posted by john g View Post

    i don't understand logic.
    fify

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  • DJA
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    Originally posted by John G View Post

    Well it's certainly a novel argument. However, there is, of course, no evidence of the words, "I know you murdered Nichols" being uttered. And is there any evidence that Chapman knew who murdered Nichols?

    Occam's razor: John Richardson said that he often had to turn out strangers who were in the yard fir an immoral purpose. The conversation Long overhead could easily be interpreted as a prostitute with her client. Ergo..
    Yet his mother who actually lived there refuted that in her testimony.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by PaulB View Post

    He said it came from the yard of no. 29

    And here you have been proven wrong Mr. Begg.


    Good that you've acknowledged that.



    The Baron

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by John G View Post

    I don't understand the logic of this post. Atomic theory and a spherical earth can be scientifically supported. On the other hand, arguing that someone was a blackmailer, without any evidence whatsover is, by definition, lacking in scientific objectivity. Still, everyone's entitled to their own theories, however, unsupported by evidence they may be.
    We are down the rabbit-hole again John.

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