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  • Elizabeth Prater

    Hi All,

    Old Bailey, January 1889—

    (Police Constable 354 H) produced and proved plans of the house 26, Dorset Street, where the occurrence took place.

    DAVID ROBERTS. I am by trade a painter and decorator, of 26 Dorset Street, Spitalfields—on November 26th [1888] I was living there, in the first-floor back room, with my wife, the deceased woman [Eliza Roberts], and her sister, the prisoner [Kate Marshall]—they carried on the same business of whip-making—we had all been living together in the same room for some time . . . I have lived in that room with my wife about seven months—we had been married fifteen or sixteen years—the eldest child is fifteen—we lived together twelve months before we were married . . .

    CHARLES AMORY. I am a wire-worker, and on November 26th [1888] I was living at 26 Dorset Street, in the first floor front room—two women, named Mary Johnson and Annie Jackson, were also living in the same room.

    The front and back first floor rooms are separated "by a passage and a spare room, which is used at nights to put lodgers with their children in . . ."

    Where did Elizabeth Prater live?

    Regards,

    Simon
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

  • #2
    That's a very interesting post, Simon. It's new to me. Has it been discussed before? And why is 'Annie Jackson' ringing a bell?

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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    • #3
      Hi Simon, Tom.
      Here's one of the many previous discussions on this subject:

      http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=644

      Simon-the date of the trial should be January 1899
      Last edited by Debra A; 05-08-2012, 01:35 PM.
      ,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸, Debs ,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,

      I am not DJA. He's called Dave.

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      • #4
        Thanks, Debs. But you can't expect each of us to remember every thread ever created. But after reading this, I do recall having popped in on it when it was active. Seemed at that time no consensus had been reached. But it looks to me as though Prater lived in one of the back rooms facing the court, as argued by Stewart.

        Yours truly,

        Tom Wescott

        P.S. Annie Jackson = Elizabeth Jackson?

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        • #5
          No, but it doesn't hurt to google a topic now and again, maybe?
          I just linked to this one as it was one of the better discussion I thought and there's a lot of good information posted on there.

          Yeah...cos there was only ever one girl named Jackson in the world...
          ,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸, Debs ,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,

          I am not DJA. He's called Dave.

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          • #6
            Thank you Debra,

            My bad.

            Off now to Lenscrafters.

            Regards,

            Simon
            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
              P.S. Annie Jackson = Elizabeth Jackson?
              Annie Jackson = Elizabeth Jackson = Janet Jackson, Tom.

              Thanks for the vintage thread, Debs.
              Best regards,
              Maria

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                Off now to Lenscrafters.

                Hi Simon

                Back in the Old Country we say 'Should have gone to Specsavers'.
                allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
                  Hi Simon

                  Back in the Old Country we say 'Should have gone to Specsavers'.
                  And we hate 'my bad' too, Stephen...or is that just me?
                  ,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸, Debs ,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,

                  I am not DJA. He's called Dave.

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                  • #10
                    awesome

                    Hello Debs. Would you prefer, "Totally awesome!" (heh-heh)

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • #11
                      I'm not a big fan of 'my bad' either, though I confess it occassionally slips from my lips or fingers. British people have a much more interesting way of speaking than us Yanks. We're not as funny and creative with it. It's almost worth pissing Debs off as much as I do to see how she'll choose to express her anger at me. It cracks me up every time.

                      Tom and Debs---->

                      Yours truly,

                      Tom Wescott

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                        I'm not a big fan of 'my bad' either, though I confess it occassionally slips from my lips or fingers. British people have a much more interesting way of speaking than us Yanks. We're not as funny and creative with it. It's almost worth pissing Debs off as much as I do to see how she'll choose to express her anger at me. It cracks me up every time.

                        Tom and Debs---->

                        Yours truly,

                        Tom Wescott
                        Get knotted you great fat useless spawny eyed parrot faced wassock!
                        ,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸, Debs ,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,

                        I am not DJA. He's called Dave.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Debra A View Post
                          Get knotted you great fat useless spawny eyed parrot faced wassock!
                          DEBRA! I hope your father doesn't see that!

                          Love
                          Mum

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                            But it looks to me as though Prater lived in one of the back rooms facing the court, as argued by Stewart.
                            Hi Tom

                            No, the argument was about whether Prater lived in a specific room overlooking the court ie the one directly above Kelly. This was an accepted fact until 3 years ago based on her inquest statement. Then Sam Flynn unearthed a whole heap of contemporary news reports that together show quite clearly that her room was at the front of #26 overlooking Dorset Street, She says so herself. One shouldn't argue against the unarguable I'd say.

                            Hi Debra

                            Yes, 'my bad' is a pretty gruesome phrase isn't it?

                            But it might actually be useful in socialising small children.
                            allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                            • #15
                              DEBRA! I hope your father doesn't see that!

                              Love
                              Mum
                              Too late...

                              Luckily though, dad's a fan of the late great Tony Capstick!

                              Dave

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