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  • sdreid
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    We are now at 120 year for Frances - rest in peace.

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  • Nurse Sarah
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    Hi Trevor

    Would you sign my copy of your book in bold?

    Kindest regards

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Monty

    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    The resident group of armchair detectives have a better comprehension of the facts and the cases historical context than some Murder Squad ones.

    They think they have a better comprehension just because they have been studying this case for 120 years but the saying "Cant see the wood from the trees" springs to mind. I would suggest they would have more if they took off the rose tinted spectacles and dropped their over inflated egos

    I tend to leave the poor defenceless creatures alone. Its unsporting otherwise.

    Defence is the best from of attack
    MONTY
    Last edited by Trevor Marriott; 04-15-2010, 11:03 AM.

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    It a good job I do not fall into the above catergory then .

    I always practice what I preach after all it is not I that have distorted the facts. I have tried to undo the distortions made by others and in particular our resident group of armchair detectives.

    Tin hat and body armour at the ready. But make sure you get me first time. There is nothing as dangerous as a wounded animal .
    The resident group of armchair detectives have a better comprehension of the facts and the cases historical context than some Murder Squad ones.

    I tend to leave the poor defenceless creatures alone. Its unsporting otherwise.

    MONTY

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by DVV View Post
    Wounded animals often type in bold.

    Amitiés,
    David
    Then you for one had better beware

    I Type in bold when I want to make sure someone gets and understands the message

    "The truth is still out there and beckons ever closer"
    Last edited by Trevor Marriott; 04-15-2010, 01:51 AM.

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  • DVV
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    Wounded animals often type in bold.

    Amitiés,
    David

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    And some reason for that distortion is down to baseless, erronous posts made by people who have a theory to peddle as opposed to ground facts.

    Practice what you preach.

    ....and keep the tin hat on.

    Monty
    It a good job I do not fall into the above catergory then .

    I always practice what I preach after all it is not I that have distorted the facts. I have tried to undo the distortions made by others and in particular our resident group of armchair detectives.

    Tin hat and body armour at the ready. But make sure you get me first time. There is nothing as dangerous as a wounded animal .
    Last edited by Trevor Marriott; 04-15-2010, 12:40 AM.

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  • Monty
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    People try to go to deep into the various aspects that leads to total confusion and is the cause of many arguments on here. The basic facts about the Rippper have now become distorted.
    And some reason for that distortion is down to baseless, erronous posts made by people who have a theory to peddle as opposed to ground facts.

    Practice what you preach.

    ....and keep the tin hat on.

    Monty

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  • Nurse Sarah
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    Thanks to Rob and Observer for the photos.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by robhouse View Post
    Do you care to post the sources for these Trevor? By the way, I am not even claiming that Sadler killed coles... I am merely saying that there is clearly more suspicion against him than there is against Kidney.

    Also, you say Sadler was so drunk he could not walk at 3 AM. But at 2 AM, he walked up to PC Edwards, then walked along some distance with him. I admit that I apparently got the location wrong where Edwards left Sadler... still, it was a 3 minute walk to the murder site according to Edwards' testimony. So the basic ideas of what I wrote is still just as correct.

    Now, I am perfectly willing to consider your points... but can you please give your sources for them?
    RH
    I am happy to provide you with the sources

    http://www.casebook.org/victims/coles.html

    After all the bible never lies


    I dont want to have a go at you specifically but i did post recently that posters should do their own research before they post on here about contentious issues. Here are relevant facts right under everyones nose.

    People try to go to deep into the various aspects that leads to total confusion and is the cause of many arguments on here. The basic facts about the Rippper have now become distorted.

    Do we really need to know the family history of every witness involved in the mystery. This is just one example of material clogging up the overall investigation. This type of info may be of interest to some but should be kept separate.

    Tin hat ready !

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  • robhouse
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    Do you care to post the sources for these Trevor? By the way, I am not even claiming that Sadler killed coles... I am merely saying that there is clearly more suspicion against him than there is against Kidney.

    Also, you say Sadler was so drunk he could not walk at 3 AM. But at 2 AM, he walked up to PC Edwards, then walked along some distance with him. I admit that I apparently got the location wrong where Edwards left Sadler... still, it was a 3 minute walk to the murder site according to Edwards' testimony. So the basic ideas of what I wrote is still just as correct.

    Now, I am perfectly willing to consider your points... but can you please give your sources for them?
    RH

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Sadler was seen by a witness at 3am who stated he was so drunk he could hardly speak let alone stand up. Coles was killed by someone holding her head back from behind and cutting her throat. That is in line with Nicholls, Chapman and Eddowes.

    Are we expected to belive that a man so drunk would be able to render a woman who is not that drunk helpless and then cut her throat with some degree of accuracy. And not forgetting he had been wandering around and then lo and behold he just happens to bump into her thats real conicidence.

    Are we also not forgetting the man she was seen to go off with at 1.45am in Commercial St or are we suggesting that was sadler. That man was not described as being drunk and staggering about.

    Perhaps Rob or someone could produce a map showing all of the relevant places with distance it might make it easier for all to understand.

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  • Observer
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    Hi Sarah here is the County Court building in Prescott Street which Rob Clack refers to. Looks like it's an Indian restaurant now.

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    all the best

    Observer

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  • DVV
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    I'd turn the question into :

    "Coles : the Ripper, Sadler or someone else ?"

    ...and would answer :

    1- Sadler
    2-Someone else
    3- The Ripper

    Amitiés,
    David

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  • Rob Clack
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    Here you go.

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    Rob

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