Coles - Ripper or not?

[Nurse Sarah]

Any chance you could mark on that photo where Coles was found, if possible?

Thanks

[Nurse Sarah]

LOL!

[Rob Clack]

Thank you, that's brilliant. I've stayed in this hotel and have more of an idea of the area now. You are a treasure!

I cannot deny it

[Nurse Sarah]

Thank you, that's brilliant. I've stayed in this hotel and have more of an idea of the area now. You are a treasure!

[Rob Clack]

The Travelodge is on Chamber Street near the Leman Street corner. I've marked it in red. The green building is where the Berner Street school is.



Rob

[Nurse Sarah]

PS Rob, there's a Travelodge in this area....would it be where the largest chimney is?

I think it's near Mansell Street. To the north-east of the Tower...

[Nurse Sarah]

Thanks Rob, as ever, a fountain of knowledge!

The photo is very helpful.

[Rob Clack]

Hi all

Can anyone tell me if these places are still here today in London, if I was to retrace the steps?

Thanks

The basic outline of most of the streets are still there but other than the railway arches, the Royal Mint and the hydraulic pumping station (I think that's what it is called) by Mansell Street it's all gone. A few buildings on Prescott Street are the same and there's a wonderful building on the corner of Prescott Street and Magdalen Passage which was the county court house is still standing.

This is an aerial view of the area from 1934.



Rob

[Nurse Sarah]

Hi all

Can anyone tell me if these places are still here today in London, if I was to retrace the steps?

Thanks

[robhouse]

Thanks again Monty.

But is Sparrow Corner the same as Sparrow Court? Looks to me like the area you have circled is at the corner of Royal Mint St, right? Bogen said "He could have gone up Sparrow-court into Royal Mint-street."

[Monty]

Rob,

Sparrow Corner circled in orange Rob.

[robhouse]

OK, follow up question... where is Sparrow Court? I cannot tell from your map, and my map doesnt have that section...


"PC Bogen - About 2 o'clock I saw him on the pavement opposite the Mint.

CORONER. - This is very important. Can you be sure about the time?

Witness. - Yes, the Tower clock had just struck 2.

Mr. Mathews. - Were you in the company of Sergeant Edwards, and did you notice any further injuries?

Witness. - Yes, a cut over the right eye and his face covered with blood. He said he had been assaulted down by the London Docks by some men. He had his hand on his right hip and said he had been kicked in the ribs. Sergeant Edwards walked away with the man towards the Minories.

Mr. Mathews. - When you left the man the last time outside the Mint, could he have got to Swallow-gardens without passing you?

Witness. - He could have gone up Sparrow-court into Royal Mint-street and then up Swallow-gardens. If he had gone along the Minories he must have passed me.

Mr. Mathews. - How long would it take a man to walk there from where you left him?

Witness. - It is about five minutes walk."

[robhouse]

Thanks Monty for the clarification...

[Monty]

Rob,

Daily Graphic 4 February 1893

[Monty]

Rob,

Royal Mint had its own Police Station as such, so did the Docks. Edwards and Brogan was based there. Its near the Mint main gates.

Red Circle is the station house.

Red Cross is where Edwards see Sadler.

Now Lockharts, I believe, had two premises on Tower Hill. Both circled Black on this map.

Blue Cross is the site of Coles murder.