I better quickly add I had assumed Stephen knew that the shot looking up an alleyway was done with the knowledge it was Abel's Buildings, not least because of the extra 50 yards he'd have to walk to get there along the parallel road!
PHILIP
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Hi Stephen,
The pictures you took from Chamber Street are indeed Swallow Gardens. Your picture from Royal Mint Street, however, is not Swallow Gardens, it's the Abels Buildings.
Rob Clack and I exchanged a series of posts on this subject a few weeks ago. If you look at message #591 on the thread "East End Photographs and Drawings" you'll see Rob's answer including "then and now pictures" proving that the site is actually the Abels Buildings.
Great photos nonetheless. Thanks for posting them. They are a lot better than the ones I took.
BulldogLast edited by Bulldog; 08-22-2008, 04:35 AM.
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Oh, I have faith in you, Mr Thomas.
You have the right arch. Absolutely, unequivicably. As did John Gordon Whitby.
One further pointer, besides all the location work that Rob did a couple of years back, is that there was a building on top of the arch on the Royal Mint Street side in one of the illustrations. That building was also in Whitby's 1961 shot from that side and his Chamber Street shot shows the arch as it currently looks. The whole Royal Mint Street side is very different now because the DLR emerges at that spot heading East.
Anyone using the DLR from Tower Gateway or Bank, the point where you emerge into the open air is actually the Swallow Gardens arch if you look to the left.
PHILIP
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Originally posted by George Hutchinson View PostYou DID get the right arch, Stephen? Tell me you did!
O ye of little faith..........
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It's a pity that more people don't go south of Whitechapel High Street to check out the other sites. Chamber Street is actually very close to Tower Hill Underground Station and would be an excellent start or end to a Ripper tour. And Pinchin Street and Berner Street are close by. Here is one of the arches on Royal Mint Street then and now......
Here's the Swallow Gardens arch now, set back from the road presumably to accomodate extra railway lines above (note the light coloured reinforced concrete support). The pillars shown either side of the arch on the 1891 pictures can be seen here....
And here we see the round metal support and the fancy brickwork shown on the old illustrations.....
I'd be grateful if anyone could post more contemporary illustrations and also the proof that this particular arch is definitely the entrance to Swallow Gardens.
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You DID get the right arch, Stephen? Tell me you did!
PHILIP
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Swallow Gardens
Recently Stewart Evans kindly posted some rare contemporary drawings of Swallow Gardens aka Little Prescott Street which was a walkway beneath a railway arch running between Chamber Street and Royal Mint Street and the site of the murder of Frances Coles. Here are the pictures.
Intrigued by these I went down there to see what the site looked like now.
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