Swallow Gardens

[Observer]

Hi Sam

...I see from the DVLA Personalised Registrations website that "Y1 EEL" is on sale for £999, and I'd imagine "X1 EEL" wouldn't be too far off that price.

Anyone willing to shell out?

Groan......that's what I was intimating when I sadi (whose sadi?) there was money to be made in the seafood trade. anyone willing to fork out a thousand squid....er quid for a number plaice.....er plate can't be short of a few bob.

all the best

Observer

[Sam Flynn]

Anyway, back to our original programming....

...come 2040, the "SW41LOW" reg mark will be on sale. Plenty of time to save up for it

[John Bennett]

Sorry its a bit off topic, but...

...I see from the DVLA Personalised Registrations website that "Y1 EEL" is on sale for £999, and I'd imagine "X1 EEL" wouldn't be too far off that price.

Anyone willing to shell out?

Near where I live is Crews Hill, well known for its garden centres. There is a place that sells soil, mulch, compost, bark chippings, all that stuff.

The owner's number plate reads OLD 501L.

And a guy who drinks in my sister's local has DEL 80Y.

Anyway, back to our original programming....

[Sam Flynn]

Don't fancy finding me FARSON'S GUIDE TO THE BRITISH, do you?

I'll see what I can do, Phil...

[George Hutchinson]

You have too much time on your hands, Gareth.

Don't fancy finding me FARSON'S GUIDE TO THE BRITISH, do you?

PHILIP

[Sam Flynn]

Love the registration number, there must be money to be made in the seafood trade.

...I see from the DVLA Personalised Registrations website that "Y1 EEL" is on sale for £999, and I'd imagine "X1 EEL" wouldn't be too far off that price.

Anyone willing to shell out?

[KatBradshaw]

How about this for East End Humour?
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That is a GREAT number plate!!

This site certainly does seem to be very isolated and creepy. Poor Frances to have died in such a horrible place.

[Observer]

Hi Stephen

Just had a good look at all the photo's, and maps, and can now appreciate the layout of Swallow Gardens and it's environs.

Love the registration number, there must be money to be made in the seafood trade.

all the best Observer

[Stephen Thomas]

I'm even more confused now! It's difficult for someone who has not visited the site to appreciate the layout. In Septic's photo only two of the arches are bricked up, while in your photo albeit taken from the other side of the arches to Septic's in Chambers Street there are four bricked up arches. Can you explain?

Hi Observer

Yes. If you look again at Colin's photo from Royal Mint Street looking east (and the last map) you'll see that for some reason two arches are protruding from the line and thus the ones behind them can't be seen on the photo.

And that is indeed foreshortening on Colin's picture inside the arch (that man was born lucky). What you can see is one of the middle windows in the background, the end one being obscured by those white boxes.

How about this for East End Humour?

[Observer]

Hi Colin

Yes I can make it out now, as you suggest the original floor has probably been raised by a few feet.

Thanks

Observer

[sdreid]

Hi Stephen,

I was not entirely jesting. It would seem that some money could be made showing the site after a bit of tidying. They have control of access with the door there.

I can see the single top window in the bricked up arch, but I can't make out the other four windows below this. Also the van seems to be too high up ...

Is it a simple matter of foreshortening? Or has the level of the former thoroughfare been raised?

Hi Observer,

One of the lower windows can be seen beyond the van, to the left.



I would venture to guess that the original ground-level surface is under one-to-two feet of concrete.


Colin

[Bulldog]

You jest Stan, of course, but I must say that it's a shame that more people don't get to visit this spot as it's definitely the most atmospheric and creepiest of the WM sites. I for one wouldn't fancy walking alone down Chamber Street on a dark night.

Hi Stephen,

You're absolutely right about it being astmospheric and creepy. I didn't really enjoy walking down Chamber Street on a cloudy, dreary weekday afternoon. I was the only person there and it definitely felt somewhat strange.

Swallow Garden is, however, the best preserved Whitechapel Murder site. The only changes that have apparently taken place are the adding of electric lights and the removal of the wooden hoarding. It's too bad that there isn't some way for the public to gain access.

Maybe someday.....

Bulldog

[Observer]

much appreciate the photo's, they are a great boon to those of us who are unable to get to the sites

Observer

[Observer]

Hi Stephen

I'm even more confused now! It's difficult for someone who has not visited the site to appreciate the layout. In Septic's photo only two of the arches are bricked up, while in your photo albeit taken from the other side of the arches to Septic's in Chambers Street there are four bricked up arches. Can you explain?

all the best

Observer