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[Cogidubnus]

Hmm...thought I'd simply edited that (because I thought that on reflection the Tom reference sounded exultant rather than humourous...as I'd intended)...clearly I got that wrong too!

Small round objects!

Dave

[Cogidubnus]

From the late reporting of the offence to the Police (just before the inquest) you can also perhaps infer her reluctance to have the medical staff report the matter.

All the best

Dave

[Cogidubnus]

From the late reporting of the offence to the Police (just before the inquest) you can also perhaps infer her reluctance to have the medical staff report the matter, (sorry Tom!).

All the best

Dave

[DVV]

Hi Phil and Stan, true.
And you can add Mary Russell's testimony about her "reluctance" to describe the attack.

[sdreid]

As I recall, no blood was found where she said she was attacked nor had anyone seen any gangs in the area.

[Phil H]

There is something off about what Emma is alleged to have said. The Met (IIRC) believed that she should have passed more than one beat copper as she staggered home, but spoke to none it appears. Also aren't the timings a bit odd?

Phil H

[DVV]

Why would she lie about a gang if it were a lone killer? I do not understand why anyone thinks she is a Ripper victim.

Hi Miakaal

quite simple. She could have lied just like Ada Wilson did, for the same reason.

[sdreid]

As was with the case of Margery Wren, she might have lied to protect someone.

[miakaal4]

Why the doubts?

Why would she lie about a gang if it were a lone killer? I do not understand why anyone thinks she is a Ripper victim.

[martin wilson]

The Old Nicholl probably.
But, I have been reading about 19th century abortion and pretty gruesome stuff it is too.
Maybe,just maybe, it was an attempt at self induced abortion or botched by somebody else.
Perhaps the Doctors experience may have been that the type of injury sustained by Emma was not uncommon amongst women who had attempted abortion, could it explain his diffidence?
No witnesses, no arrests, only Emma's testimony to go on.although she did indicate one of her attackers was young,around 19 I think which would be more supportive of her story.
I'm 95% on the gang rape,but after reading about the kinds of things women were sticking up themselves there is a small 5% doubt.
All the best.

[sentinel65]

Yep, there is. I thought it was interesting and kind of neat that your first post here was on an Emma Smith. We never see that.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Well I have been going through the Ripper facts before attempting to find a suspect, so I may easily build up my opinion on many of the mysteries of the case. The first mystery I'm analyzing is how many murders the Ripper committed, so I've been reading up on each victim in order to find the answer.

[Tom_Wescott]

Yep, there is. I thought it was interesting and kind of neat that your first post here was on an Emma Smith. We never see that.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[sentinel65]

The old 1970's classic or his 2000 and something update? We've had a lot of chatter somewhat recently on here about Smith, namely started by yours truly. A fascinating case.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

I read the 1975 edition, I wasn't aware there was a newer version by the same name.

[Tom_Wescott]

The old 1970's classic or his 2000 and something update? We've had a lot of chatter somewhat recently on here about Smith, namely started by yours truly. A fascinating case.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[sentinel65]

Hi Sentinel, welcome to the Casebook. I see you've been reading up on Smith. What are your sources?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Thanks, I'm glad to be here. My source for information on the Smith case is 'The Complete Jack The Ripper' by Donald Rumbelow.