Well, obviously, in his alter ego as the torso killer, he wasn't overly bothered about body parts being swiftly found in the Whitehall vaults. If it hadn't been for Smokey the terrier that victim's buried left leg and foot and later the left arm would have lain undiscovered.
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Originally posted by Rosella View PostWell, obviously, in his alter ego as the torso killer, he wasn't overly bothered about body parts being swiftly found in the Whitehall vaults. If it hadn't been for Smokey the terrier that victim's buried left leg and foot and later the left arm would have lain undiscovered.
I donīt agree, since there were people in the vault every day except for sunday.
The leg and foot found by Smoker lay in a mound of earth.
Regards Pierre
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Originally posted by Karl View PostI think that's what she'd normally do, yes. However, some clients might be willing to pay extra for a bit more privacy, and some girls might be prepared to accept that. It might well be that Mary accepted once too often.
Of course, that begs the question: with the previous killings, why didn't Jack the Ripper trawl the streets until he found someone willing to do business from their home? There are several possible explanations. He could have been too impatient to wait for the one woman who might agree to take him home, or it might be the opposite: perhaps he was calculating enough that he knew the risk of getting caught would skyrocket if he kept asking potential victims for that added bit of privacy. After all, each prostitute who turned him down would then be a witness: "You know, just before she was killed, there was this creep who offered to pay me extra if we could do it in my bed. What, you too? Perhaps we should tell the police?" Well, I'm just thinking out loud, here.
They had the possibility of a bed if they could raise a few pennys
I suspect JTR may have been aware of this and been unlikely to ask for a roof for the evening.....unless he knew Kelly as 'blotchy' clearly didYou can lead a horse to water.....
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostHi Rosella,
I donīt agree, since there were people in the vault every day except for sunday.
The leg and foot found by Smoker lay in a mound of earth.
Regards Pierre
Those Whitehall vaults were so dark there was minimum light even during the day. IMO the body parts were dumped by someone who either worked on the site or regularly brought supplies in.
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Originally posted by Rosella View PostIf the killer wished for the torso and limbs to be found immediately why didn't he drop them over the fence or in a residential square, as happened with other dumped body parts, notably Voison in 1917?
Regards Pierre
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostBecause he wanted to give the pieces to the police.
Regards Pierre
Do think it makes sense, however.Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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Originally posted by Rosella View PostAnd the other torsos, Pierre, which were found floating in the Thames, and the piece found in Percy Shelley's garden, for instance? The killer didn't want to give those to the police?
Jokes aside, he did actually have a reason for doing what he did during that weekend.
Regards Pierre
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Originally posted by Robert St Devil View PostDoes he attribute a representive significance to each body part? Does he have prior specifics for which location get what body part?
Probably since they never found the heads.
I havenīt done an analyze from the perspective of the last question, but I have no reason for thinking so.
My data for the torso murders are very sparse and my assumptions of them therefore very few.
Regards Pierre
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Originally posted by Harry D View PostI'm not sure how it possibly could (be established)?
So how can we be sure that they were murders. Not sure that we can.
Cheers
C4
P.S. Dates possibly not exactly correct but too lazy to get up and check.
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Originally posted by curious4 View PostWell, it seems that the doctors couldn't establish a cause of death, so to my mind they could have come from a body destined for the teaching hospitals, but disposed of by students. Since the law of 1832 (I think) which allowed the bodies of people who had died in the workhouses or hospitals and were not claimed by anyone to be used for dissection, there had been no shortage of bodies. (This is not counting the body parts found in 1873 which were complete, but before Jack's time).
So how can we be sure that they were murders. Not sure that we can.
Cheers
C4
P.S. Dates possibly not exactly correct but too lazy to get up and check.
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