Mary Kelly at Salvation Army Meeting

[Lombro2]

Not quite sure what conclusions we are supposed to be drawing from this?

c.d.

Offhand, there are a couple of possible avenues of investigation or speculations one can draw regarding Mary and/or the Ripper and related theories as to their ID.

1. There was a Salvation Army Home on Hanbury (194-196 Hanbury)

2. A Salvation Army commissioner David C Lamb remembered someone who said "Carroty Nell" (Francis Coles?) is next.
Order of Assassins - Google Books See footnote

3. MJK Candidate Mary Jane Wilson had a son who always said the Salvation Army saved "his neck".
Jack, Son of Jack - Casebook: Jack the Ripper Forums

[Lombro2]

DJA,

I think you're confusing the "lively" London City Mission with the more "staid" Salvation Army.

[DJA]

Not quite sure what conclusions we are supposed to be drawing from this?

c.d.

700 × 467

[DJA]

Opened Sunday mornings, during the cold months, for a service before breakfast.

[c.d.]

Not quite sure what conclusions we are supposed to be drawing from this?

c.d.

[The Rookie Detective]

Re-Bump up to bump up my initial bump

A great thread here that warrants further discussion IMO

[The Rookie Detective]

Bump up for this fascinating thread




RD

[MayBea]

The December Ripperologist found a Salvation Army connection with Frances Coles in a newspaper dated Feb. 14, 1891.

Two or three women asserted that in the features of the deceased they could recognize a young woman whom the Salvation Army had endeavored to reclaim, and who had recently been an inmate of one of the Army shelters. One woman asserted that she knew the deceased, who some time ago lived in Thrawl Street by the name of Francis or Frances

[MayBea]

The Dec. 29th, 1888, War Cry has a Captain Walker saying that God was leading her to Canada...

["We start with a rousing march down Queen Street where we held a short open-air stand. Inside we welcomed the English lasses who were received with hearty volleys....The strangers were called upon to testify and let as to now how they were getting on in their souls. Cpt. Walker said that God was leading her, and she had made up her mind to follow, she was going to love the Canadian people."]

I believe she was the one with whom Mary allegedly sang out of the same hymn book. I'll look for more references though to make sure.

https://archive.org/details/war-cry-1888_12_29M

We have been able to find this Captain Walker listed on a ship to Canada from Liverpool in November 1888 and then returning again on another ship from Liverpool in 1894, destination Revelstoke, B.C.

She is Mary Ann Walker, b. circa 1866. In 1888, it looks to me like her first name is given as Marie.

[MayBea]

I think the question of where to go on Sunday morning might hinge on travel distance, if the SA location happens to be closer.

The above S.F. Swift article two posts up has an interview with Captain Walker and she says that they were holding their Sunday service at a lodging house in George's Yard (second paragraph under The Reign of Fear).

The proximity, and the possibility that Walker tended to Mary after she suffered a beating, suggests reasons why Mary may have chosen the SA service over others.

[MayBea]

Here's the year end review article from January 5, 1889.

The Mary Kelly story is repeated and another victim, I believe is Chapman, is mentioned.

[MayBea]

Continued, with a conversation with the Captain and the Lieutenant.

[MayBea]

This article, from October 13, 1888, mentions a Captain W__, whom I believe would be Captain Walker.

[MayBea]

Courtesy of The Salvation Army International Heritage Centre

[MayBea]

I have the above-listed articles.

Courtesy of The Salvation Army International Heritage Centre