Antonia Alexander offers supposed photo of Mary Kelly.

[Sally]

http://www.ripperologist.biz/fifth_victim.pdf

Hi All,

From Ripperologist #134

[Jenni Shelden]

http://www.ripperologist.biz/fifth_victim.pdf

That is a picture of Lizzie Williams (Mary Elizabeth) wife of Sir John Williams

I think you are mistaken in thinking even “Antonia Alexander” would think she was Mary Kelly.

Please read the above link, don’t waste your time with this “theory” (and I use that word loosely
Jenni

[AuroraSarintacos]

http://www.ripperologist.biz/fifth_victim.pdf

Hi All,

From Ripperologist #134

Oh, what a God dang biznatch!

Now I REALLY do not like her! How dare she? And Antonia Alexander is not even her name; she isn't even a medical student!

What a bunch of bullocks!

[pinkmoon]

Oh, what a God dang biznatch!

Now I REALLY do not like her! How dare she? And Antonia Alexander is not even her name; she isn't even a medical student!

What a bunch of bullocks!

This Antonia or whatever her name is needs to be carefull the is pretty close to fraud if you ask me I hope for her sake nobody contacts the police

[GUT]

Hi Barnaby,I'm one of the poor sods who forked out a fiver to purchase this book on my beloved kindle.The book is great and absolutely fantastic until you start reading it in my opinion it is totally made up it contains everything apart from any facts and quite frankly is the worst ripper book every( and let's face it with had some stinkers over the years.)If I had the choice of re reading this book again or sticking my head up a dead bears bum I would take the dead bear option anytime.

But Pinkmoon we all know you are kinky. ...

[PaulWilliams]

Fraud is defined in British Law as a person making a false representation dishonestly, knowing that it was or might be true or misleading and with intent to make a gain for himself or another or to cause loss to another or to expose another to risk of loss.

At the very least I would suggest that anyone who purchased the book contacts the publisher for a refund.

[GUT]

Fraud

One small problem with the claims of fraud is that to the best of my knowledge this work was always described as a novel.

[Barnaby]

So this specific example is clearly not our Mary Kelly.

When shown a portrait, the first thing we always want to do is to compare it with the newspaper portrayals and the death scene. And then we get excited when they are similar. Of course they will be. If someone is going to put the effort into creating a hoax, they will find an old picture of someone who resembles the newspaper portrayal. To me, to a extent at least, the closer the resemblance, the less likely it is to be Mary.

[pinkmoon]

So this specific example is clearly not our Mary Kelly.

When shown a portrait, the first thing we always want to do is to compare it with the newspaper portrayals and the death scene. And then we get excited when they are similar. Of course they will be. If someone is going to put the effort into creating a hoax, they will find an old picture of someone who resembles the newspaper portrayal. To me, to a extent at least, the closer the resemblance, the less likely it is to be Mary.

Hi Barnaby,the problem with the whole ripper thing is that so many people want to put a name to the killer that they will buy and listen to anything put in front of them and I'm sure a lot (but not all) authors feed on this fact.

[Carol]

Are you SURE, Carol?



While I can see a resemblance, Ms. Hughes seems much slimmer. Hmm.

But, thank you for clearing that up?

I'm REALLY starting to not like this Antonia Alexander woman -___-

Hi Aurora,

Yes, I am sure. The photograph you posted at the start of this thread is the EXACT SAME PHOTOGRAPH as the one in the book I mentioned and it states quite categorically that the photo is of Williams' wife. The heading to the right of the photograph says 'John Williams's wife, Mary Elisabeth Ann Hughes, 'Lizzie', when young. The photographs of her taken during their marriage show a marked physical decline'.

I would willingly post the photo if I only knew how too. I know how to scan the photo into the computer but I don't know how to post it on Casebook. I would be really grateful if you could let me know how to do it! Thanks.

I'm now going to check out Sally's and Jenni's 'pointers'. I think I'll also check out Amazon to see if the book is shown there and if there are any 'reviews'!

Take care,
Carol

[Harry D]

I would willingly post the photo if I only knew how too. I know how to scan the photo into the computer but I don't know how to post it on Casebook. I would be really grateful if you could let me know how to do it! Thanks.

Once you've scanned the photo and have the file, just go to any number of image upload sites. imgur.com is a popular one. Then use this button to display it on here.

[Carol]

Once you've scanned the photo and have the file, just go to any number of image upload sites. imgur.com is a popular one. Then use this button to display it on here.

Hi Harry,
Many thanks. I'll see if I can manage it after tea!
Carol

[Prosector]

Well done Carol - you're quite right. But didn't someone recently point out that Antonia Alexander is one of Tony Williams's pseudonyms? In which case not very surprising.

Prosector

[Carol]

Well done Carol - you're quite right. But didn't someone recently point out that Antonia Alexander is one of Tony Williams's pseudonyms? In which case not very surprising.

Prosector

Hi Prosector,

The mind boggles! What a naughty boy!

Carol

[Prosector]

Sorry - posted that before I had seen Jeni shelden's link the the Ripperologist article.