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That day's edition was a good enough source for Wickerman to refer to.
You have no idea of English comprehension.
I didn't write it,only thought it was an interesting read,as "there was a tradition that Eddowes stayed at Dorset Street".
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Originally posted by DJA View PostI was obviously,well to most people here,referring to the newspaper that Wicky had posted.
You'd have to actually read it.
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I was obviously,well to most people here,referring to the newspaper that Wicky had posted.
You'd have to actually read it.
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Originally posted by DJA View Post
You left out the interesting part of the news ......
Curiously enough, the warehouse at No. 26, now closed by large doors, was until a few weeks ago the nightly resort of poor homeless creatures, who went there for shelter. One of these women was Catherine Eddowes, the woman who was murdered in Mitre-square.
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Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
Yes, you notice that quote comes at the end of a lengthy report of the scene and all the prior activity. I suspect "before anything was disturbed" refers to the removal of the body to the mortuary.
https://www.casebook.org/press_repor.../dt881110.html
The scene was photographed before the body was removed.
Curiously enough, the warehouse at No. 26, now closed by large doors, was until a few weeks ago the nightly resort of poor homeless creatures, who went there for shelter. One of these women was Catherine Eddowes, the woman who was murdered in Mitre-square.
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Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
Reports on the time of photography are mixed, so I don't feel it's possible to be certain. However, the Telegraph 10 Nov does say that "Before anything was disturbed a photograph was taken of the interior of the room"
https://www.casebook.org/press_repor.../dt881110.html
The scene was photographed before the body was removed.
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Originally posted by richardh View PostIt DOES look like her thumb, It COULD be her right thumb. I don't think it is her right thumb.
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Its interesting that the discussion here is about her right arm...which in any image Ive seen does seem to be out of the shoulder socket,.. because there was some experience with just a right arm in early that September. The Pimlico discovery.
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The contrast on this one is "darker" than your previous effort.
Using 120" 1080p blown up an additional 40%.
Thumb is similar shade as her left hand, and the thumbnail and thumb shape are reasonably defined.
Mary's left eye shows up better in your previous photo,she seems to have light blue eyes.Last edited by DJA; 11-21-2020, 05:40 PM.
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Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
Richard, I'm fine with your conviction. Had her right arm been severed to any degree I would expect it to have been mentioned. Early press reports also mentioned her head had been removed, that is also not supported by any evidence either.
As I said before, we seem to assume the photo of the body on the bed captures what witnesses first saw on entering the room. However, press reports indicate otherwise. Several doctors conducted a preliminary examination on the body prior to sending for a photographer.
I think we can safely assume that conducting a preliminary examination involves more than them just standing back with their hands in their pockets.
As a consequence, her right arm is described by Dr. Bond in one position, but later, after the examination, the photographer captures the arm in a different position. A doctor had moved her arm.
The photographer was not brought in to capture the evidence prior to an investigation as might be done today. Forensic investigation had not evolved to that level in the late 19th century.
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Originally posted by richardh View Post
...I'll say it again and with 100% conviction that the right arm was fully attached to the truck and the killer made no attempt to remove it or any other limb.
As I said before, we seem to assume the photo of the body on the bed captures what witnesses first saw on entering the room. However, press reports indicate otherwise. Several doctors conducted a preliminary examination on the body prior to sending for a photographer.
I think we can safely assume that conducting a preliminary examination involves more than them just standing back with their hands in their pockets.
As a consequence, her right arm is described by Dr. Bond in one position, but later, after the examination, the photographer captures the arm in a different position. A doctor had moved her arm.
The photographer was not brought in to capture the evidence prior to an investigation as might be done today. Forensic investigation had not evolved to that level in the late 19th century.
Last edited by Wickerman; 11-21-2020, 03:00 PM.
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