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  • Originally posted by Leanne View Post
    Catherine Kelly, 17, sentenced to 3 months guilty of stealing bed linen and was sent to Newcastle Gaol

    Source: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/in-y...-19th-11278137

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    • Hi,
      These old photographs can get the imagination running away, every nineteenth century portrait , has one thinking it could be . I doubt if any photo of Mary Kelly ever survived, at any age of her life.. I ask the question did passports of that era, have any image attached to them, to prove authenticity? as it was stated that McCarthy's son saw her passport, when his mother was parcelling up Kelly's belongings to send to her brother in the army, who appears to have been reluctant to get involved, but this is hearsay from one Fiona Kendall lane..but could well be correct.?
      Regards Richard.

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      • Originally posted by Harry D View Post

        Catherine Kelly, 17, sentenced to 3 months guilty of stealing bed linen and was sent to Newcastle Gaol

        Source: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/in-y...-19th-11278137
        Is there any chance of Catherine Kelly becoming Mary Jane Kelly?

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        • Originally posted by Leanne View Post

          Is there any chance of Catherine Kelly becoming Mary Jane Kelly?
          Picture was taken circa 1873. That would put Catherine Kelly in her early 30s in 1888. Mary Kelly was 25?

          Kelly is a common Irish surname. I don't see any reason to think this girl could be MJK.

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          • Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
            Hi,
            I ask the question did passports of that era, have any image attached to them, to prove authenticity?.
            No, unfortunately. Passport photographs were only introduced in 1915..
            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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            • Hi,
              i thought that was the case, but the documents that she would have had, would have surely have some means of identification , even a verified address , and next of kin.?
              Regards Richard.

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              • Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
                Hi,
                i thought that was the case, but the documents that she would have had, would have surely have some means of identification , even a verified address , and next of kin.?
                Regards Richard.
                Nothing so sophisticated, Richard. Victorian passports seem to have been little more than a one-page letter giving permission to travel. Here's an example:

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                Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                  Nothing so sophisticated, Richard. Victorian passports seem to have been little more than a one-page letter giving permission to travel. Here's an example:

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                  Is that an old one of yours Sam?
                  Regards

                  Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                  “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                  • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                    Is that an old one of yours Sam?
                    It's my current one. They built things to last back then.
                    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                    • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post

                      It's my current one. They built things to last back then.
                      Regards

                      Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                      “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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