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BTW David and Lynn, there's not many know this, but the New Testament water into wine miracle was provoked by a Scot saying to Jesus "It's your round."
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You'd never do that, Mr Linford. Nothing in our wine, nothing in our malt.
"Straight, no chaser", as Charlie Parker put it.
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David, if you're going to do miracles, please no water into wine. That's OK in France, but for me, water into a nice cup of tea.
Ta.
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Originally posted by lynn cates View PostHello David. Canonisation for you? Show me first your miracles. (heh-heh)
LC
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Hello David. Canonisation for you? Show me first your miracles. (heh-heh)
Not a bad listing. Of course, unfortunately, the canon was fixed by others and must, therefore, abide.
But you see Kelly as CORRECTLY in the canon and that is the idea of this thread.
So, until we meet again and the case is solved'.
Cheers.
LC
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Hello David. I'm proud of you. Now you are singing my song.
The way you wear that cute hair-do
And when you blush I love that too
I'm just so proud of you"
(Eddie Cochran)
Embarrassing? It is never embarrassing to make a well thought out distinction.
Proposals vis-a-vis the WCM?
As for Tabram, it's up to anyone to put her in late Antiquity or early Middle Ages - it was the same murderer anyway.
Which would give, to answer your question :
Milwood, Wilson, Smith : protocanonicals
Tabram : protocanonical or canonical
Nichols, Chapman, Stride, Eddowes, Kelly : canonicals
McKenzie : deuterocanonical or apocryphal
Coles : apocryphal
From Byzantium
Canonize me when you canLast edited by DVV; 02-21-2012, 05:08 PM.
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Hello David. I'm proud of you. Now you are singing my song.
Embarrassing? It is never embarrassing to make a well thought out distinction.
Proposals vis-a-vis the WCM?
Cheers.
LC
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Originally posted by Wickerman View PostI'm suspicious that there was a componant of showmanship & a "challenge to society" in these murders, rather than any motive of revenge, or mania, and with Chapman he almost tipped his hand.
I'm not suggesting he was a doctor, but he was not some uneducated lunatic with a knife either.
Eddowes was scaled back in so far as apparent 'skill' was displayed, or he was just pushed for time, but his 'signature', to the medical profession, was the kidney.
Regards, Jon S.
But, I suppose you have to factor in the value placed upon life in those times. Today, life is cheap in some countries with serious poverty issues. Perhaps in those days, a life at sea, for example, wasn't too far removed from a life in prison; and it follows thus any fully-functioning, non-lunatic, with a desire to kill, from the lower working classes, would have taken that risk. Although hanging is a different matter.
He certainly took huge risks, which would suggest to me that he had little to lose or he was a lunatic.
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Originally posted by lynn cates View PostHello David. The basic idea of a canon is to sort things into two groups--that which belongs, that which does not.
And keep crossing yourself. Ash Wednesday is just around the corner.
Cheers.
LC
It's not only about the basic idea of a canon, I believe. This basic idea is indeed what you said ("to sort things into two groups") but when applied to our field, we must also take into account its possible antonyms.
And between "canonical" and "apocryphal", you'll find embarrassing but most useful concepts such as "protocanonical" and "deuterocanonical" - that could well qualify some murders (from February 1888 to February 1891).
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Originally posted by Wickerman View PostCenturies separate them so, what do you think.
Jon
Now these centuries that separate them could also explain how the same writer could shift from Hebrew to Greek at some point. Looks like he had plenty of time to learn foreign languages.
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Hello David. The basic idea of a canon is to sort things into two groups--that which belongs, that which does not.
And keep crossing yourself. Ash Wednesday is just around the corner.
Cheers.
LC
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B & B
Hello Ben. Thanks. I was thinking of Baxter and Bagster's take.
Cheers.
LC
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Originally posted by lynn cates View PostIf you think about "canon" in other contexts, you will find that it does not always imply "same hand." (Eg, "canon of scripture.")
LC
Je me signe et j'éteins l'ordi.
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