Toilets in Millers Court

[Nemo]

Many thanks Stephen

That's quite clear to me

Regards

Nemo

[Stephen Thomas]

Hi Nemo

Sorry about the dodgy drawing but it would have been like this

[Nemo]

Thanks Stephen

There seems to be a couple of other anomalies

The door to No. 11 must be to the left of the building as you face it

There is what I take to be a window in No.13, where the door should be

Although alcoves within the room have been illustrated, the fireplace is missing

The "windows" appear to be very small and offset

I'll PM you with a couple of options but it's not clear how the stairs are reached from the front door, whether they are within a passageway or acessed via room 11

[Stephen Thomas]

It's a bit of a strange arrangement in No. 11 with the stairs to No. 12 seemingly on the same wall as the fireplace...

That's because it's an impossible arrangement, Nemo. I imagine the good PC drew his not bad diagram and then realised he hadn't accounted for the stairs so scribbled a vague representation of a staircase in the top right corner to indicate where the entrance to the room was.

[Nemo]

It's a bit of a strange arrangement in No. 11 with the stairs to No. 12 seemingly on the same wall as the fireplace...

[The Good Michael]

Jesus and his disciples X 3 = on no! Evil?

Mike

[richardnunweek]

Hello Steven.
You said it my friend, I would not dare to mention that much frowned upon number, heaven forbid...
Richard.

[Stephen Thomas]

The room number certainly highlights '' unlucky'' what a place to live...

Especially if you multiply it by 3.

[richardnunweek]

Hi,
The room number certainly highlights '' unlucky'' what a place to live...
Richard.

[The Good Michael]

With proximity to toilets, one could say 13 was a Shltty location.

Mike

[Stephen Thomas]

This toilet block can, with the eye of faith, be seen in the demolition photographs themselves - the bottom left and corner of the blue square in the middle photograph touches what appears to be a pitched roof. The location is sound, and the dimensions would fit nicely.

Here's another helpful graphic prepared by Chris Scott.

26 and 27: Obvious

Red triangle: Back wall of Millers Court

1: 7 and 8 Millers Court

2: 9 and 10 Millers Court

3: 11 and 12 Millers Court

(note the chimneystacks by the way including the one for #13)

The toilets can be seen below the red 26, obscuring the #13 windows.

[Lechmere]

I checked the records and there is nothing for Miller's Court - found some others for Dorset Street which I'll put up elsewhere.

[DrHopper]

Just noticed something in the demolition photograph (here - http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=1755) The etching on the right shows what appears to be the tap with a bucket and a washboard standing up (extreme bottom left). The tap as been moved in the 1909 plan - obviously to make way for the toilet block. This toilet block can, with the eye of faith, be seen in the demolition photographs themselves - the bottom left and corner of the blue square in the middle photograph touches what appears to be a pitched roof. The location is sound, and the dimensions would fit nicely.

[Lechmere]

I'm going to check tomorrow although the relevant record may not be there.

I meant that someone in Dorset Street wouldn't be able to see. They may see her go round the corner, but would hardly guess, I would submit, that she was going round the corner to shove her hand through the window and pull back the bolt.

[Stephen Thomas]

Stephen, what was the date of the Goad map(s) used to produce the layout in the definitive documentary please?

Hi Nemo

1890. The magnificent Mr Clack has kindly posted all the relevant Goad Maps on his individual forum on Howard's site.

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=7262&page=3

Hi DrH

As you can see from the map on the link above, the toilets were at the back of the court in 1890.