Toilets in Millers Court

[Barnaby]

Hi Mike.

To me, toilets seem to be the ideal place to drop a bloody knife, bloody gloves, or a bloody article of clothing.

I know a guy who's a bottle-digger, and he excavates the sites of 19th C. outhouses. He told me he finds all kinds of rare 19th C. bottles, as well as the occasional gun, knife, or poison bottle.

Best regards,
Archaic

This is a really good idea. Has anyone previously attempted to conduct such a search at any of the toilets near the crime scenes?

[Archaic]

re: Other Uses For Toilets

Toilets seem to be the ideal hiding place.

Hi Mike.

To me, toilets seem to be the ideal place to drop a bloody knife, bloody gloves, or a bloody article of clothing.

I know a guy who's a bottle-digger, and he excavates the sites of 19th C. outhouses. He told me he finds all kinds of rare 19th C. bottles, as well as the occasional gun, knife, or poison bottle.

Best regards,
Archaic

[Jane Coram]

Hi,

The back window of McCarthy's shop also looked right onto the spot outside Mary's front door.

Hugs

Janie

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[The Grave Maurice]

Whoever lived at #11/12 would probably have able to see Barnett and MJK shoving their arms through the broken window to open the door?

Interesting point. But wouldn't that also be true of the people in #3/4 and (maybe) #1/2?

[The Good Michael]

Deb,

Exactly. They would have been coming home late, making noise, and people always peek out when they hear noises, don't they?

Any research done on the Hanslope family tree that you know of?

Mike

Add: Duh. When in doubt look here: http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=64

[Debra A]

Whoever lived at #11/12 would probably have able to see Barnett and MJK shoving their arms through the broken window to open the door?

[The Good Michael]

Thanks Stephen. Just as I pictured it. Notice that Kelly's larger window is directly across from that of 11. Looks to be about 8 feet apart

Mike

[Stephen Thomas]

From Mark's book, a hitherto unseen 1898 picture found by Rob Clack.

Note the brick construction bottom left.

[The Good Michael]

Thanks Deb... and Chris Scott.

Mike

Add: That would make Hanslope's apartment, if he lived there at the time, and if the toilets were in the back, the one with the best view of Kelly's activities on a window to window basis.

[Debra A]

Mike, according to Chris Scott's transcripts of the Whitechapel Infrmary records he lived at #11.

[The Good Michael]

One assault on his mother (who died Oct 88), death threat on his wife, threatened suicide, a sexual assault charge that was thrown out, and two seperate charges for trying to pass himself off as a plain clothes detective.

Deb, I don't think his room number was ever discovered. Is that right?

Plain clothes detectives, sexual issues, death threats, Miller's Court.

It just makes you think.

Mike

[Debra A]

Yes Debra I remember the discussion of Henry Hanslope. If I recall you found this Miller Court resident had priors for violent acts. - Roy

Yes, well remembered, Roy.
One assault on his mother (who died Oct 88), death threat on his wife, threatened suicide, a sexual assault charge that was thrown out, and two seperate charges for trying to pass himself off as a plain clothes detective.

He was also the cousin of Frank Hogg, father of Phoebe (Tiggy) Hogg, victim of Mary Peacery...not that being someone's cousin is a crime.

Jane, I commented about the door too after I realised that it was a plan of the first floor. At first I thought it was the ground floor and the window looked into the toilets!!

[The Good Michael]

One time in Dublin, I rented a room at a hostel. In order to get to another room via stairs, people had to go through my room. Consequently, I left my things in the safe.

Mike

[Jane Coram]

Hi Letchmere,

Duh! My brain went on holiday this morning and hasn't got back yet. You're quite right. The door to No 11 should be under the window of No 12. I was forgetting that was the upstairs! I wouldn't mind, but I've actually painted No 11s door at least four times! (Not the actual door you understand – I'm not that old – just on canvas. Lol).

Mind you, looking where the staircase is situated in the room, does that mean that the residents of No 12 had to walk right through No. 11 to get up there? I can't see that there could be a passage, as there just isn't room. That could be a bit awkward!

Hugs

Janie


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[The Good Michael]

The only thing I remember about Hanslope is that we wondered if his face was blotchy.

Mike